Bass newb, judging a bass

[MostlyBass]

http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_...ng-a-bass-bow/

[TroyK]

Originally Posted by ripper911

...It's certainly shaped like a bass and will give you a sound much closer to what you want than any bass guitar would, for $500 I'd go for it.
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Maybe...probably not...

Originally Posted by MLouis1981

P-bass w/flats and foam mute, instant DB tone...

Actually, yes. I agree. Not quite the same tone I'm going for, but a much higher percentage play to get onto that end of the sound spectrum and a better investment.

But, what does it matter? Poster came here for validation, not advice. Rock on.

[Thumpie]

Originally Posted by TroyK

Actually, yes. I agree. Not quite the same tone I'm going for, but a much higher percentage play to get onto that end of the sound spectrum and a better investment.

But Troy, he's buying mainly for *looks* as well as "tone." On "restiraunts" [sic] gigs. You dig?

[drurb]

Originally Posted by ripper911

I'll bite...

It's certainly shaped like a bass and will give you a sound much closer to what you want than any bass guitar would, for $500 I'd go for it.

If you want the folks to play nice here it helps to agree with everything they say and THEN ask the same question in a round-the-bout way.
Otherwise anything you say (assuming your not Edgar Meyer) will be considered uninformed and the only response will be "read the stickeys".

Forums are here so that people from different places and experience levels can DISCUSS a certain topic. Everyone starts somewhere...

Yes, everyone starts somewhere and many here expend considerable time and effort helping players to get onto the best path regardless of where they start. Anyone familiar with these threads knows that they ARE discussions. In this thread, we had a newbie asking a question. He received excellent advice based on centuries of accumulated experience.

I think your characterization is most unfair. Yes, newbies are directed to the stickies, especially the wiki. That occurs when it's clear that they have not noticed them or ignored them. It's actually the quickest route to some very comprehensive answers. It's far better than members here re-writing the same advice over and over and over and over again. That's why we have stickies! Most posts in threads do not direct players to the stickies and most players here are not at Edgar Meyer's level.

When a newbie asks for advice, it certainly is less of a "discussion" with that individual than is the case in other threads. The individual is asking for advice and is not seeking a discussion of the finer points that are the subject of most threads here.

It's not a matter of having to agree with the posts offering advice. You would do well to notice that, among seasoned players, there is no disagreement here in this thread. What makes no sense is for someone who admits he has very little knowledge to ask for advice and then assert that he rejects that advice while offering misguided arguments justifying his action.

Of course, such a newbie is free to go and buy whatever he wishes and that's the case here. You have a very skewed and distorted sense of the dialogue here if you try to make this about the people who are trying to help and who have helped.

In these forums, in particular, and on the internet, in general, everyone has a voice. Everyone can express an opinion. The value of those opinions is very much a function of the experience and expertise of the person expressing it. That's why it's important to consider the source. So, what's your DB experience? Your profile doesn't offer much.

[Thumpie]

Originally Posted by drurb

Yes, everyone starts somewhere and many here expend considerable time and effort helping players to get onto the best path regardless of where they start. Anyone familiar with these threads knows that they ARE discussions. In this thread, we had a newbie asking a question. He received excellent advice based on centuries of accumulated experience.

I think your characterization is most unfair. Yes, newbies are directed to the stickies, especially the wiki. That occurs when it's clear that they have not noticed them or ignored them. It's actually is quickest route to some very comprehensive answers. It's far better than members here re-writing the same advice over and over and over and over again. That's why we have stickies! Most posts in threads do not direct players to the stickies and most players here are not at Edgar Meyer's level.

When a newbie asks for advice, it certainly is less of a "discussion" with that individual than is the case in other threads. The individual is asking for advice and is not seeking a discussion of the finer points that are the subject of most threads here.

It's not a matter of having to agree with the posts offering advice. You would do well to notice that, among seasoned players, there is no disagreement here in this thread. What makes no sense is for someone who admits he has very little knowledge to ask for advice and then assert that he rejects that advice while offering misguided arguments justifying his action.

Of course, such a newbie is free to go and buy whatever he wishes and that's the case here. You have a very skewed and distorted sense of the dialogue here if you try to make this about the people who are trying to help and who have helped.

100% spot on. I have found Talkbass to a invaluable resource. And if I ask a question, I'd be more than pleased to be directed to a wiki post that answered my question.

[ripper911]

Hey, y'all asked for a post like that.

One of the great values of this type of forum is the knowledge of the more experienced members. Don't think that newbies don't recognize that, that's why we ask the question here in the first place. I will poke fun, don't take it as disrespectful, it keeps things moving at least.
Rile up the crowd then sit back and watch the fun.

As for my experience on DB, admittedly not as much as I would like. I played in high school and bought a CCB a few months ago to play around with.

I default to "get what you want to, as long as it gets you playing" Surely that has it's drawbacks, but who am I to keep someone from buying an instrument they want.

[TroyK]

Originally Posted by ripper911

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Rile up the crowd then sit back and watch the fun.

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In other words, be a troll.

Originally Posted by drurb

...Most posts in threads do not direct players to the stickies and most players here are not at Edgar Meyer's level.
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Hey, speak for yourself there, doc! ;-)

[drurb]

Originally Posted by TroyK

...Hey, speak for yourself there, doc! ;-)

Well, I sure was. No way I'm near Edgar Meyer's level and I figure most aren't. Seemed pretty safe. On the other hand, some are at that level. You know, players such as yourself.

Originally Posted by ripper911

Hey, y'all asked for a post like that.

No, we didn't. Neither explicitly or implicitly.

[ripper911]

Originally Posted by Thumpie

The only thing this thread needs now is a poster coming out of the woodwork to chide our harsh appraisal and say that bass *could* be a good deal...

Sorry if I got too trollish with it, it's good to keep things light spirited IMO.

The OP obviously got perturbed by the responses, and some others with mine, it happens.

Back to the discussion...
I say get the CCB, if you buy a better one down the road you can either sell it or keep it around as a spare.

[KUNGfuSHERIFF]

Not if he trashes his tendons playing without the benefit of proper technique on an instrument of dubious quality.

[TroyK]

Originally Posted by ripper911

...The OP obviously got perturbed by the responses, and some others with mine, it happens...

That's because like a lot of people he comes here looking for validation or permission for what he's already decided to do and gets miffed when we tell him what we think instead. Happens all the time...a few times a week I would estimate we get the same post

"Been playing EB for years and I'm pretty good so I shouldn't have any problem...my dad's a TV repair man, he's got this awesome set of tools..."

That's why we put a decent amount of hours into the wiki, because we answer the same question every week. Now, we answer it every week from people who either can't be bothered to read the wiki or read it and are just looking for us (who wrote it) to tell them that it's okay, go ahead, it'll probably be fine because you're special.

Well, let me be the first: Go ahead, it will probably be fine because you're special.

[VeganThump]

Originally Posted by TroyK

That's because like a lot of people he comes here looking for validation or permission for what he's already decided to do and gets miffed when we tell him what we think instead. Happens all the time...a few times a week I would estimate we get the same post.

+1

So true, that's all it is, he wanted validation for his purchase, not genuine help and guidance. Much to his chagrin, he received none of the former and buckets of the latter.

[swervy jervy]

Whenever drurb or kungfu go off on somebody it's fun to imagine their posts in the voice of Paul Lynde.

[KUNGfuSHERIFF]

Did I go off on him? I thought I tempered the sarcasm this time...and I'd much prefer to hear Christopher Walken narrate my posts, in case anyone is wondering what to get me for Christmas.

[TroyK]

Oh...I like this game. Let's all choose a celebrity spirit voice for our rant posts. I need time to think this over!

[KUNGfuSHERIFF]

You get to be Ben Stein, Troy. Or maybe Louis Black on reds.

[TroyK]

Two fine suggestions, but....I think I can do better...mulling...

I feel more like a Jeff Goldblum, but I don't think that's quite right either.

[swervy jervy]

Andy Rooney?

[Ron Plichta]

Gilbert Gottfried?

[swervy jervy]

Charlie Brown's teacher?