BRAND NEW BASS!!!! yay!!!

[jordan theurer]

im really excited!!! i just traded in my old worn out palitino for and brand new cremona! i know its not a nice like 12,000 dollar bass like ive seen on here but its right next to heaven in my book! i mean compaired to what i had and what i use it for... i have a few college auditions coming up so i feel ALOT more confident, they might not mistake me for trailer trash now lol

[tedw]

Originally Posted by jordan theurer

im really excited!!! i just traded in my old worn out palitino for and brand new cremona! i know its not a nice like 12,000 dollar bass like ive seen on here but its right next to heaven in my book! i mean compaired to what i had and what i use it for... i have a few college auditions coming up so i feel ALOT more confident, they might not mistake me for trailer trash now lol

I'll bet it's really great! Let's see a picture!

[drurb]

Should I be waiting for someone to pull the other leg?

[Bijoux]

obvious troll!

...but real funny!

[jordan theurer]

Originally Posted by tedw

I'll bet it's really great! Let's see a picture!

not the best pic but it gets the point across!!!

[Bijoux]

it is a Cremona!


Congrats!

[jordan theurer]

Originally Posted by Bijoux

it is a Cremona!

is that sarcasm???

[uprightbass.com]

I have to give him credit for sticking with it; He wore out a Palatino. That's serious commitment to wanting to learn the bass. Like learning to play hoops with a medicine ball and wicker shoes.

Maybe I didn't get it. Isn't a Cremona the same thing as a Palatino, just a different importer?

[drurb]

Originally Posted by uprightbass.com

I have to give him credit for sticking with it; He wore out a Palatino. That's serious commitment to wanting to learn the bass. Like learning to play hoops with a medicine ball and wicker shoes.

Maybe I didn't get it. Isn't a Cremona the same thing as a Palatino, just a different importer?

Well, in the end, both sure are the same thing.

[Heirphoto]

Jordan,
Welcome and congrats on the new bass. I am new here as well and a bit sad to see some of the comments. Most here will tell you any bass that was less than $1500 is worthless.

Well, maybe from an experienced player's point of view that may be true but to me a less expensive bass that has one playing instead of wishing they could play is worth a lot.

The above $1500 instruments will be better made and will probably last far longer than the lesser Chinese imports and they want you to make a wise, long term choice. Not everyone here can afford that or justify the expense when starting out as you (and I) are and may have no choice but to go in small or not go in at all.

I do appreciate the advice the the seasoned users here on how to get started but do wish they would not try to make those on a budget feel bad about what they already have. It does not create a great impression for those new to the group or to the bass. Advice is great, sarcasim just drives people away or to just lurk and not post at all.

I checked your profile and see you are in high school and headed to college to study music. Best of luck to you Jordan!

Tony

[michaeln]

I couldn't agree more with everything you said, Heirphoto. If you buy a $1500 Shen, there will always be someone to let know know through subtle or other means that a $5000 hybrid is really what you should have bought. And that hybrid guy will find out that a fully carved 7,000 year old bass carved by neanderthals by the light of the moon is the only way to go.

I hope Jordan enjoys his new bass!

[Eric Hochberg]

Originally Posted by Heirphoto

Jordan,
Welcome and congrats on the new bass. I am new here as well and a bit sad to see some of the comments. Most here will tell you any bass that was less than $1500 is worthless.

Well, maybe from an experienced player's point of view that may be true but to me a less expensive bass that has one playing instead of wishing they could play is worth a lot.

The above $1500 instruments will be better made and will probably last far longer than the lesser Chinese imports and they want you to make a wise, long term choice. Not everyone here can afford that or justify the expense when starting out as you (and I) are and may have no choice but to go in small or not go in at all.

I do appreciate the advice the the seasoned users here on how to get started but do wish they would not try to make those on a budget feel bad about what they already have. It does not create a great impression for those new to the group or to the bass. Advice is great, sarcasim just drives people away or to just lurk and not post at all.

I checked your profile and see you are in high school and headed to college to study music. Best of luck to you Jordan!

Tony

Well, the OP said his first bass is "worn out". That tells me it wasn't well made and the cost of repairs would be too high to justify. There are many basses, 100, 200 years old and more still in use. They may well have been worn out by now too, except they had a sound and quality to justify their repair over the years.
It seems the OP just bought another bass on par with his first one (I have no personal experience with these basses but this seems to be the forum consensus, so let me know if I am wrong about this). And he very well may have a similar experience with it. This doesn't seem like a very good plan to me. It has been said here many times that you either pay up front, or pay on the other side with money, hassle and disappointment.

You don't have to spend $1500 on a new bass if you take your time and look for a good, lightly used, quality bass. This story has been told countless times and the regulars here get weary. How about renting a good bass? Many shops will put the rental into purchase price.

Best wishes to the OP on his musical journey.

[Heirphoto]

Originally Posted by Eric Hochberg

Well, the OP said his first bass is "worn out". That tells me it wasn't well made and the cost of repairs would be too high to justify. There are many basses, 100, 200 years old and more still in use. They may well have been worn out by now too, except they had a sound and quality to justify their repair over the years.
It seems the OP just bought another bass on par with his first one (I have no personal experience with these basses but this seems to be the forum consensus, so let me know if I am wrong about this). And he very well may have a similar experience with it. This doesn't seem like a very good plan to me. It has been said here many times that you either pay up front, or pay on the other side with money, hassle and disappointment.

You don't have to spend $1500 on a new bass if you take your time and look for a good, lightly used, quality bass. This story has been told countless times and the regulars here get weary. How about renting a good bass? Many shops will put the rental into purchase price.

Best wishes to the OP on his musical journey.

Eric,
I do agree that a better quality used bass is probably the best deal if one can wait. That is my plan for now. Jordan already has his new Cremona and is thrilled so why should we make him second guess his choice. If it gets hom through college and on to his dream it was money well spent.

Rental is an option but here in Baltimore all I found was a not so hot bass for $75 a month. While the rental can be applied to the purchase they have nothing other than new versions of the cheap rental to buy and know nothing about setting up a bass. It will get a real bass into my hands but that $75 a month could go towards a Craigslist find if I get lucky. Right now my local CL has an Englehardt with a repaired neck for $850 and a Meisel for $1000. I have read hit and miss reviews of the Meisel.

The search continues!

Tony

[drurb]

Originally Posted by michaeln

I couldn't agree more with everything you said, Heirphoto. If you buy a $1500 Shen, there will always be someone to let know know through subtle or other means that a $5000 hybrid is really what you should have bought. And that hybrid guy will find out that a fully carved 7,000 year old bass carved by neanderthals by the light of the moon is the only way to go.

I hope Jordan enjoys his new bass!

I agree with Eric above. I think you're way off base (bass), michaeln. This is not simply a matter of relative quality. As has been mentioned here many, many times, and as explained by Eric, CCBs are simply poor economy. You end up spending more in the end or simply disposing of the bass. The quality-to-dollar ratio is actually extremely poor and while you end up paying anyway, you have an instrument that fights you all the way. This is worlds away from a valid comparison of a quality ply vs. a quality hybrid vs. a quality carved bass. Nope, the CCB discussion is not along the same dimension. Quality basses can be set up to play very well and hold their value. Not so CCBs.

[michaeln]

He already has the bass, drurb. Can we not wish him many happy hours of playing it? We don't have to pull out that tired old soapbox when the horse has already left the barn, to mix some metaphors?

[Carlo Tanori]

Congrats on that new bass Jordan!

Carlo T.

[michaeln]

By the way, Jordan, I like the way it looks.... like it has been antiqued or something?

[Eric Hochberg]

Originally Posted by Heirphoto

Eric,
I do agree that a better quality used bass is probably the best deal if one can wait. That is my plan for now. Jordan already has his new Cremona and is thrilled so why should we make him second guess his choice. If it gets hom through college and on to his dream it was money well spent.

Rental is an option but here in Baltimore all I found was a not so hot bass for $75 a month. While the rental can be applied to the purchase they have nothing other than new versions of the cheap rental to buy and know nothing about setting up a bass. It will get a real bass into my hands but that $75 a month could go towards a Craigslist find if I get lucky. Right now my local CL has an Englehardt with a repaired neck for $850 and a Meisel for $1000. I have read hit and miss reviews of the Meisel.

The search continues!

Tony

Tony, I would get in touch with several bass teachers in the Baltimore-Washington DC area, from people that teach in the schools to the National Symphony players. They will be equipped to lead you to something as they have students who may want to sell, know the market, etc.

That Meisel may be good. If you are interested, take it to a luthier in the area to check it out. Again, get recommendations from professionals above as to who is a good repair person. This may be something to check out, too. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...115658366.html

This forum (for me) is about education and not just patting people on the back. Your statement "If it gets him through college and on to his dream it was money well spent" is fine if the bass holds together, but the If is a pretty big one. I Know a quality bass, even if it is fairly inexpensive, will get him through college with little trouble as long as it is well taken care of.

[michaeln]

Jordan didn't ask anyone for pre-purchase advice. He is excited about his new, good-looking bass, and I hope he gets to play the crap out of it!

[Heirphoto]

Originally Posted by Eric Hochberg

Tony, I would get in touch with several bass teachers in the Baltimore-Washington DC area, from people that teach in the schools to the National Symphony players. They will be equipped to lead you to something as they have students who may want to sell, know the market, etc.

Oddly enough an old work buddy of mine's wife played bass with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra. I know she used to teach here in Baltimore as well. We lost touch over the years but I will try and track them down again.

Tony