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03-12-2009, 01:37 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | continuation- organ bass
So here it is continuing our talk of the discussion of the organ from the - very old instrument found on CL- post.
If you are not up to date- We are discussing the organ. Pipe and electronic- hammond and leslie too!
Organ bass is quite impressive if you have never heard an organ. The only thing that is lower than a bass is organ bass!
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03-12-2009, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York City | | | let's move this to misc. shall we? |
03-12-2009, 01:43 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | sure. fine with me! |
03-12-2009, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | I don't know much about pipe organs, I guess I'm about to learn some. But I think it's interesting that He Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered (aka "Kenny Boy") often describes his favorite old orchestral basses as having "organ-like tones" in the lower register. I haven't experienced that firsthand, sure would love to. |
03-12-2009, 02:58 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | I guess what he means is the feeling you get when the low notes flow through you, and can churn your innards! |
03-12-2009, 03:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago | | | I was doing a gig with a Hammond player a couple weeks ago and I almost reached over and chopped off his left arm with my bow. Stay outta my yard. |
03-12-2009, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko  I guess what he means is the feeling you get when the low notes flow through you, and can churn your innards! | Yeah, that's it. I've heard it from out front in the audience of some of the better orchestras, just not from behind the bass. Yet. |
03-12-2009, 03:42 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | haha. Organs are kind of like 3 instruments in one. Bass (feet) Melody (right hand) And the accompaniment (left hand) . But thats for like theatre music. Classical, you have 3-4 different melodies going on at once!
Did you know that- if the organ was not invented- almost every single genera of music would not exist? Because of the organ, 2 line melodies were produced.
Just think. One sound- one note for an instrument? That would be boring! A piano would have 12 keys, and one finger to play! |
03-12-2009, 03:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago | | | You don't think polyphony would exist without organ? |
03-12-2009, 05:05 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Polyphonic MUSIC. single lined music would exist, no cords or playing a d and a at the same time... its confusing to explain, but I read it in the Don Bedos book, so it is pretty correct and logical, as Don Bedos is one, if not the biggest, name in organ building and history.
He lived in the 1600s. Well ahead of his time. He made many discoveries for the organ. And really shaped the way we think of them and understand them.
Almost all organ builders follow the new concepts that Bedos came up with 356 years ago. |
03-12-2009, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago | | | If its in print it has to be true and we all know western music tradition is the only one...
It just seems like a bold statement.
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03-12-2009, 05:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California | | Ahhh..Bass Pedals 
Here's a nice example compliments of one of my favorite artists, Steve Hackett. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2dfTcbsM-I
Sorry folks, no DB in this one....
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03-12-2009, 06:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | | Common mods. Can we just give Ken a 24 hr pass? I'd love to see the real and fake Ken doll here at the same time.
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03-12-2009, 07:02 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Clink? what is that supposed to mean?!!? :S
What ever happened to ken anyways? |
03-12-2009, 07:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | Oh, the humanity
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Originally Posted by clink Can we just give Ken a 24 hr pass? | 
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03-12-2009, 07:11 PM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fingers You don't think polyphony would exist without organ? | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko Polyphonic MUSIC. single lined music would exist, no cords or playing a d and a at the same time... | Oh, here we go again. So, without the organ, we wouldn't have two instruments playing different single melody lines? I don't buy it. Think Dixieland. If you mean that we wouldn't otherwise have a sinle instrument playing two melody lines (double-lined music), then that's seems somewhat trivial. |
03-12-2009, 07:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon | | | Ruh Roh, Reorge. |
03-12-2009, 07:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko Clink? what is that supposed to mean?!!? :S
What ever happened to ken anyways? | You haven't seen the posts wondering if you and Ken Smith are one in the same?
Ken was banned for life over a dispute with a mod. Do a search and you'll learn all about it.
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03-12-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by drurb Oh, here we go again. So, without the organ, we wouldn't have two instruments playing different single melody lines? I don't buy it. Think Dixieland. If you mean that we wouldn't otherwise have a sinle instrument playing two melody lines (double-lined music), then that's seems somewhat trivial. | Drurb,
Ken doll is referring to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Dhv1oNZu4
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03-12-2009, 07:30 PM
| | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by clink | Wait-- it was I who mentioned Dixieland.
By the way, according to Grout's A History of Western Music, polyphony most likely existed before the ninth century in nonliturgical sacred music. It was documented as early as the ninth century and designated as "organum" or "singing together." So, it seems that the "organ" arose from that early polyphony. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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