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08-21-2007, 12:34 PM
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Been playing bass for about 16 years now... and I have finally decided to move to upright bass.
I am not nearly as familiar with uprights as I am electrics.
What would I be better off going with: Engelhardt or Eberle in the $1000 bass area? I see the Eberle has the ebony fingerboard and Engelhardt's bass makes no mention of the fingerboard material. Which has more of that wonderful, classic, pizzicato swing sound?
Thanks!
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08-21-2007, 01:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: No. Virginia near Wash, DC | |  No easy answer . . .
RE: Englehardts : http://www.engelhardtlink.com/basses.asp
ES-1, ES-9, EG-1, & EG-9 have ebony fittings
It has been my experience that no two basses sound the same - ya just gotta get out there & listen for yourself - preferably from across the room with someone else playing for you . . . it doesn't sound the same when you're playing it yourself.
Having said that . . . vingtage Kays, American Standards, Epiphones, & Kings just to name a few - all enjoy the reputation for the sound for which you're searching . . . but that's just one man's opinion . . . for whatever it may or may not be worth !
P.S. - Good Luck finding one for $1K . . .
check-out this site: http://fretwellbass.com - Jerry sells new Engles as well as most of the vintage basses mentioned above & enjoys a well earned reputation for service and integrity . . .
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08-21-2007, 02:03 PM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Clark  Been playing bass for about 16 years now... and I have finally decided to move to upright bass. |
Then you are about to only begin to play bass!  |
08-21-2007, 02:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York City | | | Hello Barry. Glad you decided to dip your toes into the darkside. I wouldn't recommend a mail order bass or trying to find that classic swing sound just through drooling over basses online (which i do quite often).
I'll give you the pretty general formula that the DBers will give you, and gave me a couple months ago:
1. Check out the newbie links
2. Go find a local luthier that deals basses
3. Get a teacher
I wish you the best of luck. I think I played a pretty new Englehardt that the non-profit organization that i worked for was using as a bass for students to play. I stole it and took it to a jam and got compliments on the sound... so it's worth a shot. For one grand, you're fishing in a pretty shallow pool but you'll find something you like. Check the classifieds too. I think there was a Kay selling for 800 a while back. |
08-21-2007, 02:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Orange, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Hsieh I stole it and took it to a jam | A bass player after my own heart! |
08-21-2007, 02:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York City | | Quote:
Originally Posted by milomo A bass player after my own heart! | well you'd be appalled to know that i put it back  |
08-21-2007, 03:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Orange, NJ | | Well, all I can say is You had me... ...and you lost me! |
08-21-2007, 05:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York City | | Quote:
Originally Posted by milomo Well, all I can say is
You had me...
...and you lost me! | that's a crying shame  can i still get a lesson next time you're in new york? message me  |
08-21-2007, 05:19 PM
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Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Hsieh can i still get a lesson next time you're in new york? message me | A lesson in stealing basses?  |
08-21-2007, 05:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cleveland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Clark Been playing bass for about 16 years now... and I have finally decided to move to upright bass.
I am not nearly as familiar with uprights as I am electrics.
What would I be better off going with: Engelhardt or Eberle in the $1000 bass area? I see the Eberle has the ebony fingerboard and Engelhardt's bass makes no mention of the fingerboard material. Which has more of that wonderful, classic, pizzicato swing sound?
Thanks! | If you do decide to look for Eberles, check out bassesonline.com. They have Eberles at a very good price last I checked. You can find the story of this outfit in the archives, too. If you can find a good one, an Eberle might do you just fine. I remember one in particular I tried once elswhere that was very nice.
If you ever can stretch your budget a bit, there are quite a few more options...Upton Hawkes, Shens, Englehardts, used this and that. (I have a new laminated Upton Hawkes in transit to me right now and can offer feedback in a few days.) |
08-22-2007, 02:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | Quote:
Originally Posted by wendell If you do decide to look for Eberles, check out bassesonline.com. | Yup... our man Greene is having a "final sale" as we speak. Check the lefthand margin for his ad. |
08-22-2007, 05:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker A lesson in stealing basses? | In my vocabulary he just "borrowed" it for a while.  Risky business, but pretty harmless if your careful. Not that I'd encourage that kind of thing.
Nice time to start DB at 16 Barry;- wish I had. Welcome to the DARK SIDE!
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08-22-2007, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson Yup... our man Greene is having a "final sale" as we speak. Check the lefthand margin for his ad. | I'm about the pull the trigger on one of Steve's basses. He has been tremendously helpful and gracious with me and my luthier: taking multiple pictures; providing all details including precise measurements; and being a genuine nice guy. He's got only a few basses left so I'd contact him ASAP. |
08-23-2007, 07:35 AM
| | | | shen > kay > englehardt.
IMHO. broad generalizations, i know. are you in New England? if so: arnold schnitzer, mark carlsen. |
08-23-2007, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Silversorcerer In my vocabulary he just "borrowed" it for a while. Risky business, but pretty harmless if your careful. Not that I'd encourage that kind of thing.
Nice time to start DB at 16 Barry;- wish I had. Welcome to the DARK SIDE! | No no, he's bee playing electric bass for 16 years, he's actually 32.
I wouldn't buy an upright online. |
08-23-2007, 07:55 AM
| | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Audiophage ...I wouldn't buy an upright online. | I would if it came from a reputable, skilled luthier/bass shop. Many here have with great success. |
08-23-2007, 06:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Warrington, PA | | | I think with uprights, more so than bass guitars, its important to try them out before buying. I've been playing upright since middle school and know, for me, that the actual feel of the bass to me is more important than what everyone else says. I've played on a number of "school basses" before I got my first carved bass (and subsequent second) and for me the overall feel of the bass and how it fits my body really makes a difference in how well I play.
Just my thoughts
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