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Old 12-29-2010, 05:45 AM
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Question Does anyone make fullsize basses anymore?

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Old 12-29-2010, 06:56 AM
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Pöllmann. Mine's a 7/8.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:59 AM
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That may be the question, but it's ill-posed. The definitions are a bit squishy here. There really is no standard for "full-size", "4/4", "3/4", etc. Here is a guideline. It really has a great deal to do with string length. Many associate "full size" with a length of about 43-44" while a so-called "3/4" usually has a string length of 41"-42". So what's a large-bodied bass with a length of 41-42"? Is it a "7/8"? I call it a "large-bodied bass with a length of 41-42". I think it's best to state the measurements and forget the names as they aren't very useful. With all of that said, if you're asking if you can still buy a new bass with a 43-44" string length, the answer would be "yes" but I'm not aware of any mass-marketers that sell them. You can easily buy a basses with 41-42" string lengths that have bodies of all different sizes. What are you looking for?

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Pöllmann. Mine's a 7/8.
Suppose I wanted to buy Bill's bass (assuming he was selling). I can guess that it has a string length of about 42" with a body larger than what's typical. I'd still have to ask. So, Bill, did I guess right?
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That may be the question, but it's ill-posed. The definitions are a bit squishy here. There really is no standard for "full-size", "4/4", "3/4", etc. Here is a guideline. It really has a great deal to do with string length.
Usually, but not always. Pöllmanns pretty much all have the same string length and differentiate in size by the rib depth. When I ordered mine, Michael Krahmer told me that a 3/4, 7/8, or 4/4 would all have the same string length.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:12 AM
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Usually, but not always. Pöllmanns pretty much all have the same string length and differentiate in size by the rib depth. When I ordered mine, Michael Krahmer told me that a 3/4, 7/8, or 4/4 would all have the same string length.
Thank you! Seems I guessed correctly. This is a perfect example of the non-standard and almost useless nomenclature. Pöllmann differentiates size by rib depth so that their "4/4" and "3/4" have the same string length! That's an exception to what's not really a rule at all. I think it's fair to say that when you say "full-size" or "4/4" to most players, we think longer string-length. My point is that the size designations don't refer reliably to string length or body size.

BTW, Bill, that Pöllmann is beautiful.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:25 AM
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I think it's the same for all string instruments. I found still another book on Stradivari in a used book shop. I seems he used 9 different molds for violins, some with big differences in length or width.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:30 AM
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When you guys said "string length," above, I know you were talking about the scale between bridge and nut. But I wonder . . . do you think that when Krahmer told you the string lengths were all the same on the 3/4s, 7/8s, and 4/4s, he might have been talking about the length of the strings installed on those instruments?
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I have a Czech bass which I believe would be considered by most to be full size. It has a 44 inch string length, it's 77 inches from the bottom of the body to the top of the scroll, and it's noticeably wider and deeper than every other bass I've played. As far as I know, the mass produce them with this size as an option in a factory in Czechoslovakia.
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When you guys said "string length," above, I know you were talking about the scale between bridge and nut. But I wonder . . . do you think that when Krahmer told you the string lengths were all the same on the 3/4s, 7/8s, and 4/4s, he might have been talking about the length of the strings installed on those instruments?
He was talking about the scale (nut to bridge). The conversation was in the context of me having small hands. He recommended a 7/8 to have enough body capacity to allow the 5th string to sound properly. I asked about string length and my small hands.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:06 AM
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I have a Czech bass which I believe would be considered by most to be full size. It has a 44 inch string length, it's 77 inches from the bottom of the body to the top of the scroll, and it's noticeably wider and deeper than every other bass I've played. As far as I know, the mass produce them with this size as an option in a factory in Czechoslovakia.
Well, by both criteria that sure seems to be a "full-size" (whatever that means). Thanks for the info about the supplier.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:27 AM
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Here's a big old old bass, check out the rib depth:

String Length: 45"
Belly Length: 47"
Rib Depth: 7"
Upper Bout: 21 5/8"
Center Bout: 14½"
Bottom Bout: 28"
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I asked about string length and my small hands.
Ah. Thanks.
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