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Old 07-14-2004, 08:06 AM
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"Double" "Acoustic" "Upright" Bass -- You're makin' me nervous

Most of you know i'm an old conservative, at least in terms of basses.
I've noticed lately that that awful, unhealthy term for our beloved instrument cropping up more and more...The UPRIGHT!!
I love you all but let's demand full respect for our instrument by NOT using this, or stand-up....You know what I mean. Bass or Double Bass will do....

I know i'm grouchy today and my period just started.....but please, let's do our best on this.
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Old 07-14-2004, 09:35 AM
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Paul, aka 'nerves of steel' is getting nervous?

Common man, it's been quiet around here since the 4th but 'silence is golden' !

Why not Violone as it was called in Italy and Germany before they even called it Double Bass or String Bass?

'Upright Bass' is a sign of progress. A man of your years should know that being 'Upright' is like having a good day !.....lol
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:10 AM
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I plan to be buried in my double bass. That's why I got a 4/4. Brother Dick, the wood worker, is going to remove the neck and scroll for a grave marker, and put a hinge on the back for access, and, if I don't like it there, my egress.

I don't want to be buried in an "upright bass," but in a reclinate double bass. I don't know what plans there are for the bow.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:15 AM
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I play with a singer who thinks she's being very hip when she refers to it as the "standup acoustical bass."

The "upright" moniker irks me too. As if somehow that wombly little canoe paddle is the precursor to the noble double bass.
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Is this a "stand - up acoustical vocalist?"
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:52 AM
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Is this a "stand - up acoustical vocalist?"
Perhaps, but most would prefer it if she just went and sat down somewhere.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:02 AM
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How 'bout Bassus Erectus... will that do?

With all due respect, I fail to see the hang-up with references like "upright," stand-up," etc... Big deal. Think of electric bass players out there who take their instrument, their playing and their music as seriously as any Dark Side counterpart -- Seems like most of us have little reservation about labelling the e-bassist's instrument of choice a "slab" or "plank," nor does it seem that many serious electric players themselves have too much of a problem with the nicknames. I fail to see the problem with a little slang now and then...

Not trying to push your buttons, Paul -- I'm having a pretty grouchy week myself...
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:25 AM
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Most of you know i'm an old conservative, at least in terms of basses.
I've noticed lately that that awful, unhealthy term for our beloved instrument cropping up more and more...The UPRIGHT!!
I love you all but let's demand full respect for our instrument by NOT using this, or stand-up....You know what I mean. Bass or Double Bass will do....:
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We are kindred spirits. I raised this argument here years ago and lost, big time.
Mozart's orchestral scores did not say "Upright" or "Acoustic" or "Stand-up", as if our instrument was some deviation from what a "real" bass is. Neither do Beethoven's, nor Schoenberg's, Penderecki's, et al. They say "Bass" or various forms of "Contra" or "Double" bass.
I say I lost. It would be more accurate to say I was drowned out. Not by DB players.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:46 AM
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"stand - up acoustical vocalist?"
This reminds me of an off-color joke, a little levity to cheer up the grumpy Paul and Brent:

Q: What's the difference between a Soprano and a Porsche?
A: Most musicians have never been in a Porsche.

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Old 07-14-2004, 11:51 AM
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Terms have been coined to differentiate our instrument from others when discussing it (usually with non- musical people):
Double bass- as opposed to cello
String bass- as opposed to tuba
Acoustic bass- as opposed to electric bass
Upright bass- as opposed to horizontal bass?

Personally, I don't gag on Upright bass. It's terms like Doghouse and Bull Fiddle that make me wanna slap somebody.
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Or - when I went to music school long ago - a soprano student from Houlton, Maine looked over my Kay, and asked - "What's that?" (I won't reveal what I told her).

My little Grand daughter calls it my "piano."

Could it be that good serious begets good humor?
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Old 07-14-2004, 06:12 PM
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I play with a singer who thinks she's being very hip when she refers to it as the "standup acoustical bass."
I play both EBG and DB in one band and the leader always introduces me as playing both "standup and REGULAR bass".
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Old 07-14-2004, 06:13 PM
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It's terms like Doghouse and Bull Fiddle that make me wanna slap somebody.
How about "Ugly Girlfriend"
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Old 07-14-2004, 06:37 PM
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Back in the day, the 'standard' for copyists in LA studios was to deliniate parts as "Bass" or "Fender Bass"...
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Old 07-14-2004, 07:22 PM
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Cool 'standard'

Not just in LA, the same goes for NY. I used to get calls from my answering service (Radio Registry) for either Upright or Fender Bass. Back then if you said Electric Bass, they thought you meant the Ampeg Baby Bass. There were about 4 listings in the Union Book as I remember; 1)String Bass, 2)Fender Bass, 3)Bass Guitar (could mean the old Fender VI that Guitarists use to double the String Bass part with on Records and B'way Shows), and 4)Electric Bass which had alot of the Latin guys with the Baby Bass.

I remember having to tell Producers that I play Electric Bass but not a 'Fender' brand. That was a tough sell at times but never impossible !

I guess it's like calling a Cab and saying "send me a Chevy" and he shows up in a 'Ford'.

What do you do then, walk home?

Upright Bass is just a name. They can call you alot worse Paul........lol .. I would take it and keep walkin...... or Bowin....

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When my grandpa calls it the "Bass Fiddle" I just look down and grind my teeth, but anythings better than "cello".
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I don't really see much wrong with any name as long as it gets everyone on the same topic. That's all the word is for anyhow, idnnit?
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:26 AM
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Ahh... I've been looking for a good oportunity to post this pic of me and my new standup bass....



These are the clothes I committed myself to wearing the first gig I play with this thing. ...and yeah i'm slightly full of myself, but 3 and half years ago i was a fat guy.
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