First Stand-Up

[lermgalieu]

Still tho, the posts were very specific and not related at all to the topic - they were actually EXCLUDING everyone else because 3 or 4 people were 'talking amongst themselves'. Digression is fine, but just to slip a unrelated note without tonally relating it (heh, music analogy) is not digression, it's random collage. That's my opinion, but I don't think anyone's moderating anything - he was just frustrated because people were kind of ignoring his question, or dismissing it with questions (you coulda given some of your knowledge without the answers to those questions, by the way: if you want X sound, look into Y, etc). That said, its a bit extreme to damn anyone, but its also extreme to treaten them with exclusion. Seems a bit territorial to me.

[jazzbo]

I agree somewhat with both points. One thing I like a lot about talkbass are the tangents the conversations go off onto. They're usually fun.

At the same point though, a lot of people really need help from the experienced people here. I know that I'm one of them. It can be frustrating when you ask a question (and we're asking the question so we don't know the answer, but sometimes we don't really know how to ask the question either) and you don't get a straight answer.

I understand if someone asks, "What's the bass that I should buy?" Obviously you can't answer that, but you can list some things that they want to take into consideration.

...just my thoughts though.

[reedo35]

Originally posted by jazzbo
I agree somewhat with both points. One thing I like a a lot of people really need help from the experienced people here. I know that I'm one of them. It can be frustrating when you ask a question (and we're asking the question so we don't know the answer, but sometimes we don't really know how to ask the question either) and you don't get a straight answer.

Point taken. I was thinking about this today,and maybe it sounds cliche', but it is easy to forget sometimes what it was like to be a wide-eyed beginner looking for answers, and
ending up being frustrated by the answers we got because we
did not have the experience to ask "intelligent" questions.
And yes, it did seem clique-ish, sort of like a fraternity that didn't want to be troubled with the questions of a newbie pledgling,and a lot of the things I was told went over my head at the time and I had no Idea what those cats were talking about.
But,(old man voice enabled) In MY day we did not have the internet and such easy access to research our questions with almost unlimited information available. I was All alone with my Bass and my Simandl Book 1 (sniff) .
Anyway, back to what I was talking about, sometimes there are no "catch-all" answers to questions, and the only way you get them is through personal experience.I think that this has been mentioned before, but it is hard to give absolutes in cyber-space when there are so many variables involved. And to use the traditionally vague cop-out answer, "only you can decide what is right for you" That sounded like Bulls** the first time I heard it, but later, it turned out to be on the money.
BTW, Mr. K, it seems we posted almost the exact same sentiments at the same time! Does that mean you owe me a cyber-Beer?

[jazzbo]

Honestly, this is why there needs to be a FAQ section. If I were somebody who has posted to the DB section for a long time, and I kept getting the same question over and over, I might start giving kurt and uninformative answers. This saves people that trouble.

Isn't it great to have this internet resource. I love to see technology used constructively. So often we waste possible resources on mindless entertainment. While mindless entertainment has its place, I'm much more interested in using resources like the internet to expand my knowledge. And, if you get lucky to find knowldegable, helpful, and experienced people who can help you in something like music, well, score!

I think my point is, I don't mind the irrelevant discussion, as long as the question is addressed. Like reedo said, you can't answer every question, because sometimes the comments you provide, while helpful, aren't a black and white answer. Like, "tell me the urb i should buy?" could be addressed by:

Need more info, please. Let us know:
1) price range
2) use of instrument
3) previous experience with instrument
4) location
5) resources
6) teacher or no?

...That sort of thing.

What is my point?

[David Kaczorowski]

Originally posted by reedo35
BTW, Mr. K, it seems we posted almost the exact same sentiments at the same time! Does that mean you owe me a cyber-Beer?
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I was gonna buy you tequila.

[David Kaczorowski]

You know, one of the beautiful things about this demanding instrument is that it also demands a discovery of yourself.

[lermgalieu]

It took me a while to even find out about Simandl, or what a luthier was. Yeah, I hear you guys. I'm pretty stoked about this board, and its starting to dig into my day job ;-) I love playing bass.

[VictorLeMonteWooten]

I've been playing upright bass in orchestra for about a month to one and half months. If you want to get good, I recommend practacing over an hour everyday. I practice 1.5-2 hours a weekday and more on weekends, and i'm advancing throught the section. It takes a lot of hard work and patients. If you don't got the patients and the commitment, don't spend the money and time.

You can usually get a bass loadned to you from the school if you participate in orchestra/jazz band.

BTW the smiling happy face w/ the teeth looks like a magic mushroom when highlighted.

[David Kaczorowski]

Originally posted by VictorLeMonteWooten
If you don't got the patients and the commitment...,

I gotta few patients. They pay me the low, low rate of $25/hr.

[lermgalieu]

Done with school, but good thought! Luckily I have a bass, now I just need patients and a scalpel!

[Stefan Boeters]

I gotta few patients. They pay me the low, low rate of $25/hr.

Perhaps you're not offering the right kind of therapy? You surely know this one:

marriage counselor

Stefan