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Old 02-02-2010, 01:15 PM
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German Bass - need infomation please

I have inherited my Father's round-back bass which he used to play professionally. He purchased in the early 1930's. I have no intention of selling but wonder if anyone knows the relative value of such an instrument.
The label inside is written in fancy cursive but looks like it says Neusur? Beyer or Newsur? Beyer (Zeyer?). Says it is a Reproduction Stratavarius 1723 and was made in 1932.
Fecit Markneukirchen which I believe means made in ....
I play my Kawai Grand Piano mostly but enjoy playing the bass too as it has wonderful tone.
The condition of the bass I would say is average to good for its age. Nothing broken, but some small dents and a couple small cracks that I remember my Dad had reparied by a well know bass restorer in Florida.
I've searched the internet but have found little info under the name of this bass.
Thanks in advance if anyone can provide a little more background information.
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They (the ones who can help you) are going to ask you for pictures. Scroll, front, back, label, as much as possible. Start there.
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:36 PM
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It prolly says BAYERN, which is German for Bavaria. Which is where Markneukirchen is. Sounds like a German factory bass, I have one and like it a bunch. If the top has cracks, sounds like it's carved as well...

Pitchers would be good.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:13 PM
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i agree with ed, pitchers would be good. whos buying? i vote pbr
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Reporting Feb 19th!!!

oh...we ain't talking baseball?
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:00 AM
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They (the ones who can help you) are going to ask you for pictures. Scroll, front, back, label, as much as possible. Start there.
Thanks. I'll post a few pics and get some more opinions.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:43 PM
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It prolly says BAYERN, which is German for Bavaria. Which is where Markneukirchen is. Sounds like a German factory bass, I have one and like it a bunch. If the top has cracks, sounds like it's carved as well...

Pitchers would be good.
Ed, I posted two pics this morning (one of the label). Doesn't look like Bayern to me. My Father always said his bass was from Czechoslovakia, but I'm quite certain from the label that it is German.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:52 PM
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There were HERMANN BEYER German shop basses - I think they were like Roths or "Juzeks" at the time. The new HB basses are pretty poor, made in China or Eastern Europe, but this might be one of the "real" ones.

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Old 03-19-2011, 01:52 PM
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It is a Hermann Beyer.

It's the same age as my bass, and the label looks almost identical.

If it is like my bass, it is a standard production (shop bass) 3/4 with a two piece spruce top and maple back, ribs, and scroll.

Its appraised replacement value (perhaps a bit higher than market value) is 10K. Yours may be worth more if that is its original finish. (someone refinished mine to a pale brown at some point )

My bass is relatively dark sounding and I use it for jazz gigs and pit work.

I would suggest you find a good luthier and get him to give it a checkup and an appraisal.

Hope this helps.
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This doesn't look entirely 'standard' to me, particularly the top near the neck joint. Get some clear pics and send them over to Ken Smith's forum. He will have a lot to say about this bass.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:48 PM
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The handwriting on the label looks like classic German script and seems to read "Hermann Beyer". Markneukirchen is a German town with connections to violin and guitar making and is the home of the Pfretzschner bow shop. The town is located a short drive from the Czech border. If the label is a reliable provenance then your instrument is indeed German. The instrument seems to be styled after a French gamba. Many German shop basses were patterned after famous makers' instruments (hence the additional info on your label). I too have a German shop bass from the late 19th century that doesn't appear to be German at all.
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