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12-21-2005, 04:18 PM
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Ok, quick question:
What is the reasoning behind the hat peg style tuners? The bass I'm renting has these and I can't see any structural reason for them.
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12-21-2005, 05:36 PM
| | Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc. | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: freeport, ny | | | They are vestigial. No structural reason for them. Stick one in your ear though an its easy to tune when theres a lot of other noise. |
12-21-2005, 06:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | I bought my first bass based largely on fact that it had hat pegs. I thought they looked cool. The rest of the bass was a mess, but the hat pegs looked cool.
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12-22-2005, 02:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London | | | So there's no practical reason for them then?
(Managed to knock my head on them when I first got the bass. A little embarrassing!) |
12-22-2005, 06:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | I guess they're just decorative throwbacks to the days before mechanical tuners, when basses had peg-style tuners like violins, violas and cellos are still stuck with (though I have seen some cellos with bass-style tuners).
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12-22-2005, 06:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn | | | They're really good for hanging your watch on at eye level, when you're really rushing to scram from a bad wedding gig.....
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12-22-2005, 06:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Area | | | I wonder if anyone has determined whether or not there are any sound benefits of the wood hat-type tuners vs. metal shafts.
I do agree they look cool though!! |
12-22-2005, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by glivanos I wonder if anyone has determined whether or not there are any sound benefits of the wood hat-type tuners vs. metal shafts.
I do agree they look cool though!! | I got a feelin it's a bit like the bridge adjusters/wooden endpin/whatever debates......I think maybe there'd be a diff. between them and really really heavy metal tuners.....my speculation
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12-22-2005, 09:13 AM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alexi David I got a feelin it's a bit like the bridge adjusters/wooden endpin/whatever debates......I think maybe there'd be a diff. between them and really really heavy metal tuners.....my speculation |
Well, it depends whether the pegs are laminated, hybrid (laminated only in the back), or fully carved. If fully carved, Eastern European spruce pegs are reputed to sound the best but only if an oil-based finish is used. Maple pegs are, in general, second best. Also, the weight ratios among the four wooden pegs should match the inverse of the fundamantel frequency ratios of the strings such that the "G-peg" is lighter than the others.
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12-22-2005, 09:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL | | | I find it inconceivable that hat pegs make any difference in sound.
They are very pretty, though... I especially like them on a new instrument.
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12-22-2005, 10:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mexico City | |  I luv them hat pegs!
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12-22-2005, 11:24 AM
| | | | I like them a lot too. I think they grip the windings a little better than brass, and I prefer the larger diameter shafts. I don't have them on the bass I've got now, but I'd consider installing them if I needed to. Although, I've grown maybe a little more fond of the French gears that pass-through the opposite cheek. |
12-22-2005, 12:49 PM
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Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd. | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Perkasie, PA USA | |  Hat Peg Quality
Usually the Hat Peg gears are on cheaper worm and cog tuners like the old german stuff. I bought a new set of Rubners, the best I could find, for my Batchelder. Not as good as the look pretty. My Martini came over from Italy with the Rubners as well and I changed them out. The Brass Gears like the fine English, Sloan or Krutz are way better than any HatPeg system I have seen. |
12-22-2005, 01:51 PM
| | | | Never seen any Krutz, but the Sloans are nice. They are too expensive, as are most other than the cheap Tyrolean's, but nice nonetheless. |
12-22-2005, 02:11 PM
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12-22-2005, 02:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith | Those look the same as the ones on my bass. They must be the tuners that Arnold uses.
Very, very smooth... but it can take a while to tune up a bass with them, I think due to the ratio.
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12-22-2005, 02:46 PM
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12-22-2005, 07:52 PM
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Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd. | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Perkasie, PA USA | | Maroon?
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Originally Posted by Ben Rose It took those pics for me to put 2+2 together and figure out that Krutz is Anton Krutz with KC Strings. What a maroon. | Maroon is one of my favorite colors too.. lol
BTW, the Krutz gears are 40:1 ratio. I think Arnold does something with the handles which looks at least as nice. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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