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11-22-2009, 08:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca (West Coast) | | | Hey Everyone... Help Me figure out Exactly what I have.. 1800's Mirecort Bass
Hey all,
I recently got a new Bass and, finally got some pics of the the instrument..
From what I've been told about the Instrument,
It is an 1800's Mirecort instrument.. Possibly a Gand & Bernadel..
which was maybe? originally 3 string.. Not sure if the neck is original..
I was told that it has a thicker top, but was worked by the previous owner.. and got a new bass bar..
I am posting a wide array of pics..
I Made them Big so Everyone could see the instrument in Detail..
Thanks for all your help...
MattyBass               
Thanks Everyone for looking..
All info and comments are greatly appreciated..
MattyBass
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11-23-2009, 07:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca (West Coast) | | | all you players out there give me your opinion on my bass as well...
what do you bassists think?? |
11-23-2009, 07:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | Nice....
Nice, but IMO, not G&B.
The double purfling and the fact that G&B basses I've seen have the pufling extended underneath the fingerboard gives me this sense.
Beautiful wood. Machines are not French, obviously.
I like it. Congrats.
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11-23-2009, 08:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | | Yes, a beautiful bass. Paul, what is your opinion of the dots at the button? Are they possibly ebony dowels used to reinforce a prior neck repair? They don't make much sense to me.
No, the machines aren't French. Germanic bass maybe. Beautiful wood and a nice bass nonetheless.
Matty, I dig the glasses. Nice that you got all dressed up for a photoshoot. Most pictures of basses just have basses in them.
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11-23-2009, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by clink  Matty, I dig the glasses. Nice that you got all dressed up for a photoshoot. Most pictures of basses just have basses in them. | Especially the foot on the couch thing! Rockabilly stance with a fine old carved bass? 
Beautiful bass-- enjoy, Matty. I'd like to hear more about how you found it, etc.
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11-23-2009, 08:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | Wide screen TBDB........
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Originally Posted by clink Yes, a beautiful bass. Paul, what is your opinion of the dots at the button? Are they possibly ebony dowels used to reinforce a prior neck repair? They don't make much sense to me. | You still here, man? This screen is so wide, it took me half a day to click on your quote. A TBDB record for wide screen?
The ebony dots are just decorative.
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11-23-2009, 08:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | Where did you find this bass?
In checking your profile, I am guessing this is your first DB. If so, congratulations on choosing the instrument we all love and dedicate ourselves to. Most of us would have liked to have started with an instrument as nice as yours, but sadly began with an old beater plywood, and only possibly now have an bass of your quality. Protect your bass and educate yourself so that you can keep it for a future player in the next century.
If you haven't seen this already, the following is good information: Newbie Links: SETUP
Are you studying with a good teacher?
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11-23-2009, 08:25 AM
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Good move, man.
As for me....I'm out. I'm so dizzy scrolling from one side of the screen to the other, I think I'm gonna puke. 
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11-23-2009, 09:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by drurb Especially the foot on the couch thing! Rockabilly stance with a fine old carved bass? | Yeah, what color are you going to paint it?
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11-23-2009, 09:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: IB, California | | | Is that the bass Dave Mallard was working on for the last couple of months? Looks german or dutch to me. |
11-23-2009, 11:35 AM
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Builder for Audiokinesis and Fearful speakers Endorser for EA, Roscoe | | | | | I think it is French. It looks like the back is flat with no upper bend? Check the insides. If original the back should have one very large brace in the middle. Could have been a 3 stringer. The machines are obviously German, but it is quite possible that when converted to 4 they used a matching set. Does not look Mirecourt. Possibly Parisian.Not G&B. Most Mirecourt basses had single purfling and single purfling that curves under the board and continues round at the button in back. (as previously mentioned). Mirecourt basses did no use that varnish color. On the headstock was ther a plug in the middle where the 3rd tuner would have been? My bet is French and likely Parisian. Basses without the break and bend on the back are almost always French. The big brace on the back is always French. |
11-23-2009, 12:23 PM
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Owner/The Bass Spa, String Repairman/L & M Vancouver | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Crescent Beach, BC | | Nice bass!  Is there any sign of a scroll graft up near the nut or inside the pegbox? That neck looks newer than the corpus to me... |
11-23-2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Yeah, what color are you going to paint it? | I think it would look good with flames!
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11-23-2009, 01:53 PM
| | | | Hi Matty bass you have an Xavier Jacquet from 1840 - 1860, it may have a lable that says La Fleur they distributed there basses for a while. Hope this helps |
11-23-2009, 02:02 PM
| | | | Hi Matty bass you have an Xavier Jacquet from 1840 - 1860, it may have a lable that says La Fleur they distributed there basses for a while. The scroll looks correct but someone has taken the 3 beautiful original tunors off when it was changed from 3 to 4 strings. Hope this helps |
11-23-2009, 02:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca (West Coast) | | | Thanks for all the input so far.... BTW I am NOT a Rockabilly player.. I just happened to be wearing a suit.. after 14 years of electric/fretless.. This is my first Double Bass, But am taking it SUPER seriously and studying with a Member of The San Diego Symphony.. And am taking it slow and learning the traditions and proper techniques of the Instrument.. I am also working out of the Simandl book and the Rabbath book..
When the Previous owner purchased it, in the 70's.. it was being sold as a
Xavier Jaquet.. It does have the Jaquet symbol.. but he wasnt sure if it was really a Jaquet.. he though maybe it was forged to make it worth more...
What makes you sure it is a Xavier-Jaquet? |
11-23-2009, 02:57 PM
| | | | it has the 2 pins at the back button on the neck, this is very typical of Jacquet, also the Xavier Jacquet basses look like they have double purfelling when infact they only have single perfelling but a very deep sharp rim that makes it look double perfelled, this is give away. Its a really nice instrument and if you know its history for the last 30 years it is sure to be genuine. |
11-23-2009, 02:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: IB, California | | | Ted Hughart has a beautiful violin corner X. Jaquet that his dad gave him. Nice horn, you scored |
11-23-2009, 03:10 PM
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Builder for Audiokinesis and Fearful speakers Endorser for EA, Roscoe | | | | | Jacquet typically used that detail at the button. I've seen those dots, too. I had a Xavier Jaquet bass. It was very typical of his shop. It was more orange in color and had a painted black edge. (also typical) I always think of X. Jacquet basses with the painted edges (Marc Johnson also has one with the black edges) although I know that they made some without. |
11-23-2009, 03:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, Ca (West Coast) | | | the stamp inside looks like this X JACQUETx with a dot in between the first X and J..
Do you know if this is how the instruments were stamped or marked? |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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