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Old 12-29-2005, 05:26 AM
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how to identify a Wilfer

I have a 1979 Wilfer, looks like a spruce arch top and maple sides with an arched maple back. The only identifying mark is the label which, I believe has the serial number on it, the number is: BPS 204. Does anybody know what model WIlfer this bass is, or how I can find out? I tried emailing Wilfer, but didn't get a response. Thanks for any info.
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:38 AM
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What does the Label actually say, all of it. Can you Post detailed Pics of your Bass?
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:34 AM
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I can't post any pics right now, but here's what the label says:

Emanuel Wilfer BPS
gegrundet 1905 204
meisterwerkstatte fur kontrabasse v.cello
anno: 1979 Wilfer's signature
Made in West Germany

That's exactly what it says, the 1979, is written in pen, the BPS 204 is a stamp, and the signature says Emanuel Wilfer.

Again, thanks for any info at all. It's appreciated.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:08 AM
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Cool ID

Well I guess it's from 1979 just after Wenzel Wilfer retired and the "BPS 204" must be the model. As far as the "gegrundet 1905" I have no clue unless the Wilfer Family started in 1905. Anton Wilfer made them in the 1930s as I have seen several dated 1936 but none older. I guess the models in 1979 are different than now or at least the names are different.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:14 AM
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That's about all the info I could find out myself. Thanks, though. You, if anybody, would know. It plays like a dream, and I only paid $300 bucks for it in '95.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:15 PM
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Cool $300?

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That's about all the info I could find out myself. Thanks, though. You, if anybody, would know. It plays like a dream, and I only paid $300 bucks for it in '95.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:20 AM
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Last night, I took some pictures of the bass for you to check out. I've identified the BPS 204 as an identifying mark from a previous owner, so that answers that question. However, I think I may have been wrong about the date. Take a look, I think it may be 1929, instead of '79. I could be wrong. Let me know what you think. And yes, it was $300 at a garage sale. I couldn't believe it either. I'm about to have it cleaned up and there's some blending to be done on the nicks as well.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:00 AM
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"gegrundet 1905" means "founded in 1905"

Mikael
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:56 AM
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I don't think there was a West Germany in 1929.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:07 AM
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Lightbulb 1979!

I just saw the pics.. It is 1979 and E. Wilfer was probably not a seed yet at that time!
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:08 AM
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Cool founded in,

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"gegrundet 1905" means "founded in 1905"

Mikael
Yup, that was my assumption.. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:27 PM
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My Wilfer just has his name on the back! I wish he would get back to David Gage about getting a label for the inside of the bass though. It's been without a label for about two years now.
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