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Old 02-11-2009, 09:01 PM
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I got my first Bass today... need opinions please...

Hi guys, I normally hang out of at HCBF, but I see there is more Double Bass players over here...

I got my first Upright today and I am super excited. But I was just wondering if the Fingerboard is right?

It is a 1960s Hofner so It does have a fair bit of wear, it seems like it's not ebony at all though and just like a lacquer on top of rosewood or something??

here are some pics, any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.






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Old 02-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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Sure Looks like rosewood, but don't despair. Lots of decent basses have rosewood boards, they just wear out faster, and that one looks pretty worn, could use a good redressing and restaining.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:29 PM
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Sure Looks like rosewood, but don't despair. Lots of decent basses have rosewood boards, they just wear out faster, and that one looks pretty worn, could use a good redressing and restaining.
Good luck with your new old Bass,
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OK thanks man, I was under the impression they all had Ebony boards for some reason. I won't worry about getting it fixed up too soon. I only just managed to pay for the actual bass

I am still in the Process of looking for a teacher... thanks again.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:47 PM
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dont feel compelled to restain it either. its nice to see a rosewood board unstained
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:12 AM
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wow -it's hard to tell from these photos. I'd like to say it's macassar ebony, but we need a Hofner expert for this one.
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:56 AM
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It looks like rosewood with a dark stain that is wearing off. It's fine if it plays ok don't mess with it until it doesn't. It's not unusual for that to be rosewood on that bass.

Enjoy it.

Excellent crib btw. Looks very nice where you live.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:35 AM
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Looks standard for Hofner basses of that period (a bit after mine). Might need a dress, but other than that they're perfectly serviceable.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:27 AM
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dont feel compelled to restain it either. its nice to see a rosewood board unstained
Cheers, I'm not really, it's playing fine AFAIK

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wow -it's hard to tell from these photos. I'd like to say it's macassar ebony, but we need a Hofner expert for this one.
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It looks like rosewood with a dark stain that is wearing off. It's fine if it plays ok don't mess with it until it doesn't. It's not unusual for that to be rosewood on that bass.

Enjoy it.

Excellent crib btw. Looks very nice where you live.
Hahah, this freaked me out at first... then I remembered I had put up photos. I just moved here, my mother wanted to see the place Thanks!

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Looks standard for Hofner basses of that period (a bit after mine). Might need a dress, but other than that they're perfectly serviceable.
Cool, thanks man.

One more thing, It feels very sticky when playing. Mostly on the right hand when playing Pizz. I think it is from the board. Is there something I can clean it with so it isn't so sticky?

Thanks again guys.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:27 AM
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I used to have a shop bass with a fingerboard made from pear wood, I believe. At some point I decided I should upgrade the bass with one made from Ebony, despite having my doubts that it would actually pay off, but it did! It was not a spectacular bass in any way, but the money invested in the new FB paid itself off in increased tone and playability. I have played a Höfner once; it was a solid enough instrument. Maybe they have different grades or something, but if you find yourself holding 1,5k in your hands, think about it.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:30 AM
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It's sticky? There are tons of different ways of cleaning your bass... acetone is good for the fingerboard, although it MIGHT dry out and crack if you overuse it over time. And be careful not to let it drip on the varnish. I use almond oil; also cleans things up and leaving the bass all greasy and nice. 8)
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the sticky might be rosin from the strings... rubbing alcohol works well on the strings with a rough cloth.... but don' get it on any wood
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:06 AM
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the sticky might be rosin from the strings... rubbing alcohol works well on the strings with a rough cloth.... but don' get it on any wood
OK, thanks, I'm guessing it would just dry the wood out too much?

It feels as though it's the fingerboard itself though that is sticky not the strings?
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:18 AM
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If you take the strings off and carefully sand the black crap off the fingerboard (BY HAND!), that will leave nice clean rosewood. sometimes a bit of steel wool and meths (carefully) will dissolve and clean the black lacquer. As long as you don't rub too hard in one spot, or spill meths on the varnish, you can't do much harm. A little oil rubbed into it afterwards will make it nice. If, however, the surface of the fingerboard is badly worn, and you have little grooves where the paint has worn away, or rough bits and ripples, you'll need to get it properly replaned by a luthier.

Also, if you take the strings off, the soundpost may fall over. Then you're in for some fun.
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:31 AM
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If it feels sticky, it probably has years of hand gunk built up on the fingerboard and neck. The other suggestions here (acetone,meth(?), alcohol), are for if you want to strip the board
down to the original wood. To just clean it up I prefer #0000 steel wool and mineral spirits. Almond oil will work,as well as boiled linseed oil, but they are both very oily and must be used sparingly.
Matthew, did you mean mentholated spirits?
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Not organic solvents!

Unless you plan to completely refinish, no alcohol or acetone or methyl anything.
Try something like this:
http://kolstein.cybrhost.com/mm5/mer...ry_Code=polish
This type of cleaner for rosin build-up and general cleaning and will salvage what may be good about your bass finish when you get it clean. A cleaner like this will treat your bass (fingerboard included) well. The stickiness on your bass is probably rosin, unless someone has tried to use organic solvents on it already. .
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:08 AM
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Kolstein cleaner is also my favorite, but If you order it now, it may take quite a while to get to Australia.
Mineral spirits and steel wool are most probably readily available where you are.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:15 PM
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Acetone will ruin the lacquer finish on the bass and the fingerboard. Turpentine is the natural way to remove rosin, its the other half of the sap.

The board is probably sticky under your left hand because of the black lacquer - you'd be much happier without it. You could do as Matthew suggested but please, 150 grit and up only!

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Acetone will ruin the lacquer finish on the bass and the fingerboard. Turpentine is the natural way to remove rosin, its the other half of the sap.

The board is probably sticky under your left hand because of the black lacquer - you'd be much happier without it. You could do as Matthew suggested but please, 150 grit and up only!

I really like your garden - my wife's a big McLeod's Daughter's fan and your kitchen kinda reminds me of the show.
Thanks man, I like the garden too. I am in the process of cleaning it up...

The board is actually only sticky the most under my right hang. Should my fingers even be hitting the board at all when playing pizz.?

Cheers.
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That depends on how low/high your strings are. Also, how close is your pizz hand to the end/bottom of the fingerboard? In general, pizzing down there results in a bigger/punchier sound (at least IME). Oh yeah.. get a teacher!

Also, if the strings are covered in rosin and other crud, get some very, very fine steel wool and use it to scrape all that gunk off.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:37 PM
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Congrats on your new bass! Hope all's well down there with fires and heat.
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