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06-17-2004, 07:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | I just found a kay on the street!
20 minutes ago my wife called me from her cell phone to ask if I knew that there was a body of a bass outside. I ran to the window and saw a fairly intact bass body laying next to the trash can on the curb. I ran down and grabbed it and brought it in just before a thunder storm unleashed. I looked inside and the label says "genuine Kay bass viol model:c1 serial #28241". Its gamba cornered and round backed.
Any help in identifying year?
Its fairly intact considering it just came out of the trash, probably after years in a puddle in some basement. The front, back, sides, and blocks are all there. They're only partially glued and there's only half of a neck heel with a couple of dowels coming out of it. The front and back have no cracks, just some significant scratches and some mild ply separation. The edges are pretty good. There was even a remarkably true sound post rattleing around inside. Another interesting feature; there seems to be a round "sound post platform" glued on the back. Maybe to give a flat surface for post fitting?
New York streets are amazing on trash days!
If someone tells me how, I'll post some pics.
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06-17-2004, 08:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | Very cool! I confess that I always keep my eyes peeled on garbage day and when I pass yard sales. You never know.
The sound post platform, I think, is something that is common to Kays and Engelhardts. At least, my Engel has one.
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06-17-2004, 09:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | | What luck! Where in Brooklyn are you? I need to go there on trash day.  |
06-17-2004, 10:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | Probably not worth it. There's usually only 3 or 4 basses a month on the street on my block. Hardly every carved. I've only seen one 300 year old Italian in 2 years. |
06-17-2004, 10:32 PM
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06-18-2004, 01:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Helsinki, Finland | | | MacBass, thanks for making me spit my coffee all over the keyboard.
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06-18-2004, 01:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: central Texas | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by McBass 20 minutes ago my wife called me from her cell phone to ask if I knew that there was a body of a bass outside. I ran to the window and saw a fairly intact bass body laying next to the trash can on the curb. I ran down and grabbed it and brought it in just before a thunder storm unleashed. I looked inside and the label says "genuine Kay bass viol model:c1 serial #28241". Its gamba cornered and round backed.
Any help in identifying year?
Its fairly intact considering it just came out of the trash, probably after years in a puddle in some basement. The front, back, sides, and blocks are all there. They're only partially glued and there's only half of a neck heel with a couple of dowels coming out of it. The front and back have no cracks, just some significant scratches and some mild ply separation. The edges are pretty good. There was even a remarkably true sound post rattleing around inside. Another interesting feature; there seems to be a round "sound post platform" glued on the back. Maybe to give a flat surface for post fitting?
New York streets are amazing on trash days!
If someone tells me how, I'll post some pics. |
Nice find!
Kay serial #28241 would indicate a 1952 bass. Model C1 was the basic student level instrument. The reinforcement for the soundpost is standard on these. Engelhardt necks are available as replacements if you want to go that route (they are very skinny). |
06-18-2004, 01:23 AM
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Is there a website where I can plug in my Kay's serial number and find out what year it was made? Just woudl like to know. Thanks in advance! |
06-18-2004, 01:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by McBass Probably not worth it. There's usually only 3 or 4 basses a month on the street on my block. Hardly every carved. I've only seen one 300 year old Italian in 2 years. | Well then I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled. |
06-18-2004, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jazzbassnerd Kind of an out of place question...
Is there a website where I can plug in my Kay's serial number and find out what year it was made? Just woudl like to know. Thanks in advance! | http://www.kaybass.com/mnfgdates.htm
Roger Stowers has compiled a great deal of information at kaybass.com, as well as a registration database. |
06-18-2004, 08:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | Holy ****!
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06-18-2004, 08:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Hey, Mike, have you heard the "trash day" story concerning an NYC bassist with initials D. E.?
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06-18-2004, 08:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | Ed, I know you were talking to the other Mike, but I think I know the story you're talking about. Sorta the opposite of what happened to McCheese?
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06-18-2004, 08:58 AM
| | | | c'mon fellas...spill it ! |
06-18-2004, 09:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN | | | That is why I love Brooklyn and NYC...Some peoples trash is our treasure.
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06-18-2004, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Hey, Mike, have you heard the "trash day" story concerning an NYC bassist with initials D. E.? | Come on Ed...i've heard it.....let everybody in on it.
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06-18-2004, 10:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | OK. Using initials to protect the innocent.
This guy is geting ready to go on tour to Europe and it's bright and early in the morning. he's got his ride on the way, he takes his bass in its Gage case down the stoop to the street and walks back up to grab his luggage. Just up to the top of the stoop and right inside the front door, it ain't like he's leaving it unattended. Anyway, it's trash day and you don't really notice the trucks anymore, they fade right into the background. he turns around to come down the stairs to see the sanitation guys throwing the case into the back of the garbage truck. He managed to get to them before they turned the crusher on....
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06-18-2004, 10:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | If that is the guy I'm thinking of, he's married to a gal from my town. His mother-in-law lives here and comes to a lot of gigs, and she loves to tell that story.
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06-18-2004, 10:24 AM
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06-18-2004, 11:15 AM
| | | | Essiet Essiet lost his bass this way. I confirmed it with him. He came downstairs just in time to see the jaw go through the middle of the case. Charles Sibirsky's friend Maury is the lawyer that got the money out of the city. It took a couple of years.
Who's the "D.E." story? I haven't heard that one. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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