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05-30-2006, 07:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Jersey Shore | | | Ken Smith Likes It . . . .
He is top bidder on this Italian bass on eBay . . . 150 years old. Sure looks nice, what's the deal Ken ? http://cgi.ebay.com/A-fine-old-Doubl...QQcmdZViewItem
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05-30-2006, 08:57 PM
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Vice President: Upton Bass String Instrument Co. | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Warwick, RI & Stonington, CT | | whatever it is...this is sexy to my eye: 
I am a sucker for a well shaped corner.
Another favorite (not from eBay) and actually very old: 
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05-30-2006, 10:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City, OK | | | The back is simply amazing. |
05-30-2006, 11:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith My lips are sealed... looks like a newish Hungarian antigued Bass to me. Not enough cracks for it's age and too much varnish touch-up with no repairs under them.. Fishy.. But it's a cute bass and I will bid on it until it's out of my reach (for its' worth)... | Yeah, the upper ribs show signs of "belt buckle" wear/scratches on both the right and left sides ...hhmmm |
05-31-2006, 05:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oslo | | | Most likely fake from Hungary or Czech republic.
Probably good sounding. |
05-31-2006, 05:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oslo | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith Are the Czechs making fakes like this now as well at the Hungarians, Romaninas and other Gypsys? | Yes. I almost bought a pretty expensive bass in Prague. It was a damn good copy of an old italian bass... |
05-31-2006, 07:08 AM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ben Joella Yeah, the upper ribs show signs of "belt buckle" wear/scratches on both the right and left sides ...hhmmm |
Good catch! That seems like a smoking gun to me. So they really do go to the trouble of making the pegbox look as if the tuners have been changed? Amazing! |
05-31-2006, 07:15 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith My lips are sealed... looks like a newish Hungarian antigued Bass to me. Not enough cracks for it's age and too much varnish touch-up with no repairs under them.. Fishy.. But it's a cute bass and I will bid on it until it's out of my reach (for its' worth)... | I really like the look of it and would be happy to pay 1000 GB Pounds for it... 
But I would have thought the 500 GB Pounds shipping costs from Germany to USA, would have put US bidders off..... 
That's half as much again! 
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05-31-2006, 10:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tennessee | | Were old basses made w/ Italian poplar?  Thought that was a modern wood. |
05-31-2006, 11:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Area | | | Outbid
As of right now, Ken has been outbid at 1048 GBP.
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06-04-2006, 08:49 AM
| | Supporting Member/Luthier | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | same seller, prolly same maker/varnisher: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=7413544283
It's too bad they list these things as being 150 years old. That's total jive and a disservice. What's wrong with "nice modern instrument, antiqued varnish"? |
06-04-2006, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by nicklloyd | Perhaps someone who can argue the case properly (certainly not me) should contact ebay. It is, after all, our brethren who are getting taken for a ride. |
06-04-2006, 10:14 AM
| | Supporting Member/Luthier | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith |
Interesting bass, might be, might not be. However, if your bass was being advertised on an Ebay auction as 150 year old instrument, I'd say bubbermesier. |
06-04-2006, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith | Clearly this shows that the same old "master" played all of these instruments 150 years ago. He had a habit of scratching the tip of the bow in the same place. Now, I have for sale some swamp land... |
06-06-2006, 05:32 AM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith My lips are sealed... looks like a newish Hungarian antigued Bass to me. Not enough cracks for it's age and too much varnish touch-up with no repairs under them.. Fishy.. But it's a cute bass and I will bid on it until it's out of my reach (for its' worth)... | I was interested in this bass as it seems to be roughly within my price range and a good "step up" from what I have...looks like it's going for about £3k..?
I emailed with some questions and got this reply on its age :
"Dear Sir, sorry but we don't have any evidence that the bass is 150 years old. This is only our opinion about this instrument. It looks realy old and sounds very lovely. It is hard to date an instrument like this. The Bass has a neck-graft. The wood and the varnish looks very old and used. It smells old. It it was often used. Best Regards, F.Szoradi "
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06-06-2006, 06:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin, Texas | | smells odd huh |
06-06-2006, 07:22 AM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Buying DBs is so much harder than buying BGs - it's not fair!!
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06-06-2006, 07:27 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | hey ken, and other folks who might know, how good of an investment is a db like that 5er?
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06-06-2006, 07:58 AM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Yeah I'd just be looking to play one of these things!! From discussions elsewhere and this thread/auction - it seems the retailers in Germany are going to be the best place for me to get my next DB! 
A good excuse - as if I needed one - for a nice holiday in Deutschland!!
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06-06-2006, 08:42 AM
| | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | cool, thanks. i was just wondering, i have -no- experience with double basses, but i would like to get a really nice one eventually (to play of course, but mainly just to have in the family)
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