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04-13-2006, 03:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 4530 Broadway | | | Kolstein Vincenzo Panormo Bass Violin
What do you guys think of this bass? http://kolstein.com/instruments/bass/b2473/index.shtml It looks good and was a bass of Robert Gladstone, former Detriot Symphony Pricinple.
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04-13-2006, 04:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the end of the section | | | It sure looks good, and I would imagine it's at least a pretty decent bass. Any ideal what he wants for it? At the price I imagine he's asking, I'd probably be more inclined to search out an older bass, but this one might be just the ticket if you want something a bit more practical... |
04-13-2006, 05:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 4530 Broadway | | | its 18,000 |
04-13-2006, 07:33 PM
| | Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc. | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: freeport, ny | | | made in germany
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04-13-2006, 08:17 PM
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04-13-2006, 10:37 PM
| | | | Let us not forget that the most important factor is how it sounds. If you think it sounds like an $18K bass (and you have the money), then go for it. Don't forget, however, to try tons of other basses in the same price range before making that decision. Let the sound speak for itself. |
04-13-2006, 10:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL | | | I can almost guarantee that a $10k bass from Schnitzer would sound and play just as nice.
When I was at Kolstein, I played all kinds of basses cheap and expensive (up to $20k) and none of them did much for me.
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04-14-2006, 10:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 4530 Broadway | | | Where is Schnitzer located? |
04-14-2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by THEBASSMAN193 Where is Schnitzer located? | Brewster, NY -- http://www.aesbass.com
To be fair there are a few luthiers on this forum who all seem to do top-notch work. Jeff Bollbach, Arnold Schnitzer, Nick Lloyd, Upton Bass... who am I missing? Schnitzer is the only one of them I've gone to see.
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04-16-2006, 12:09 PM
| | | as far as i know, the basses he sells with his name on them for under 10k are made in germany and finished in ny, but the ones in the 18k range are hand made by him in ny start to finish. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jeff Bollbach finished in NY | |
04-16-2006, 02:31 PM
| | Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc. | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: freeport, ny | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by shwashwa as far as i know, the basses he sells with his name on them for under 10k are made in germany and finished in ny, but the ones in the 18k range are hand made by him in ny start to finish. | As far as YOU know. The question is how far do I know. |
04-16-2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Bollbach As far as YOU know. The question is how far do I know. | well, i dont know how far you know, but i'm just going on what the man himself told me. the lesser priced ones are roughed out in europe and finished here, but not so for the higher priced ones. |
04-16-2006, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith I'm not 100% sure but I think the Basses Arnold makes by hand now are in the 25k range. I played one yesterday and it was scary. It was a new Bass but the sound was not and neither was the color of tone. The Bass had eveness, sweetness and was LOUD! It was not far from the type of sound my Martini has and that was made in 1919!
I think in time, Arnolds Basses will rank with the classics but maybe not in our lifetime. | ken, i think you and i are talking about 2 different people... |
04-16-2006, 04:44 PM
| | Jeff Bollbach Luthier, Inc. | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: freeport, ny | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by shwashwa well, i dont know how far you know, but i'm just going on what the man himself told me. | I knew that. |
04-16-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shwashwa well, i dont know how far you know, but i'm just going on what the man himself told me. | Didn't Jeff B. spend some of his earlier days working in Kolstein's shop? Maybe I'm conflating things because Freeport and Baldwin are quite near each other, but I thought I picked up this information at some point. |
04-16-2006, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Johono5 Didn't Jeff B. spend some of his earlier days working in Kolstein's shop? Maybe I'm conflating things because Freeport and Baldwin are quite near each other, but I thought I picked up this information at some point. | Yes he did. |
04-17-2006, 06:03 AM
| | | | thnaks for the info, but i've been dealing with him for a few years now as i have one of his basses and he's stood by it 100%. i have no complaints. i can bring it in whenever i want for a tune up and he never charges me, and, when i first got my bass, i brought it from my humidified room in my house to a dry club with the heat on in the middle of winter. the top cracked right on stage. a major repair for sure as it went from the edge to pretty far down into the top. barrie fixed it for free and contunues to monitor the repair and has tuned it up once for free maybe 2 years or so after it was done. to me, that's standing by your work.
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04-20-2006, 03:41 PM
| | | | I have had very positive experiences at Barrie's shop too. I purchased what I thought would be a second instrument from his shop a few years ago. It was Liandro DiVacenza (model 750), which is a "student" line of instruments for a very reasonable price. I love this bass so much that I now play it more than my Gabriel Jaquet (1860). In fact, I have been considering selling the Jaquet of late. In my experience, quality of an instruments sound and ease of playing is only one small part of its purrchase price. It you are bass shopping, don't be afraid to play instruments well BELOW your target price too. You never know...you might just find a gem! |
04-21-2006, 11:56 AM
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The various kinds of Kolstein basses that I've been able to play out here on the west coast seem to have been geared toward orchestral playing of one kind or another, whether they are built entirely in New York or white instruments roughed out European stock that are graduated and finished in the shop. Some of them have been good jazz basses too. My favorites so far have been the larger models, particularly with wider C bouts.
Some day I hope to make the pilgrimage out to see Barrie Kolstein's large shop to admire the great vintage instruments in stock and to see examples of Sam and Barrie Kolstein's work from the 1960s on. I'd sure like to draw a bow across instruments like this Panormo that has been discussed here. The only shop that I know of out here on the west coast with 60 basses on the floor for sale or in repair is Jon Pederson's World of Strings in Long Beach. I call it the "Church of Basses".
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04-21-2006, 04:47 PM
| | | | The Panormo family had such a distinctive style, it's almost unbelievable to see that bass being marketed as a Panormo copy. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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