Laborie Pin for a 4/4 size bass?

[anonymous12251111]

Hi! I just purchased a new instrument which is very large. It has 28" lower bouts and very deep ribs, I believe around 9.5 inches on the bottom! I was just wondering if the Laborie Endpin would be able to support this size instrument? It's surprisingly much lighter than most 3/4 size basses but I'm having a bit of trouble getting around it. Also, it's a flat-back, does a Laborie Bass/Rabbath stance work for playing on a flat-back bass? I'm lately noticing how much sitting really dampens the sound of a flat-back, so I've been playing standing but I can't stand playing in a closed stance and still trying to support the weight of the instrument evenly...I'm also only 5'6...I'm hoping the Laborie would work well for me. I hear good things about it but I am slightly apprehensive to get someone to drill a hole. I would first try a bent-pin but my endpin socket is VERY large, 14mm and it uses a carbon fibre rod so I don't believe it can be bent easily


Thanks!

[mheintz]

A Laborie can support the weight, but I highly recommend borrowing (or buying) an eggpin at least initially. That way, you can experiment with the angle and position prior to drilling. On a new (big) bass, I think that it's particularly helpful. Some people claim that the eggpin dampens the bass. I haven't found that, but ultimately, you will probably want to drill for the Laborie (or perhaps explore the KC Strings no-block drilling option) to avoid carrying the eggpin around.

[anonymous12251111]

Originally Posted by mheintz

A Laborie can support the weight, but I highly recommend borrowing (or buying) an eggpin at least initially. That way, you can experiment with the angle and position prior to drilling. On a new (big) bass, I think that it's particularly helpful. Some people claim that the eggpin dampens the bass. I haven't found that, but ultimately, you will probably want to drill for the Laborie (or perhaps explore the KC Strings no-block drilling option) to avoid carrying the eggpin around.

I unfortunately do not have a regular goetz style endpin, or anything really universal. I have an N-Pin that has a clamp system so the Egg pin cannot fit around it.

[thedbassist]

Originally Posted by Calvin Marks

Hi! I just purchased a new instrument which is very large. It has 28" lower bouts and very deep ribs, I believe around 9.5 inches on the bottom! I was just wondering if the Laborie Endpin would be able to support this size instrument? It's surprisingly much lighter than most 3/4 size basses but I'm having a bit of trouble getting around it. Also, it's a flat-back, does a Laborie Bass/Rabbath stance work for playing on a flat-back bass? I'm lately noticing how much sitting really dampens the sound of a flat-back, so I've been playing standing but I can't stand playing in a closed stance and still trying to support the weight of the instrument evenly...I'm also only 5'6...I'm hoping the Laborie would work well for me. I hear good things about it but I am slightly apprehensive to get someone to drill a hole. I would first try a bent-pin but my endpin socket is VERY large, 14mm and it uses a carbon fibre rod so I don't believe it can be bent easily


Thanks!

I'm sure a laborie endpin would support it, if you're worried about a carbon fibre endpin supporting it you could get a very thich oak endpin. You could just pm me for the e-mail address for the person who makes the oak endpins, they're very stable and don't bounce as much as carbon fibre endpins while using vibrato.

[quenoil]

The new Laborie endpins are not made of carbon fiber - they're some kind of hardwood (can't remember which kind). They sound great and are really strong - there would be no problem with it supporting your bass.

I don't think the flat-back aspect of your bass would have any impact on holding bass in an open/Rabbath style.

[Eric Hochberg]

When are you going to post pictures of your new bass, Calvin? And what kind of bag did you end up getting?

[mattfong]

Yeah Calvin, what Eric said. Eric, have you seen it? It's quite incredible.

Calvin, lets get together and play that bass duet I wrote, I want to hear that bad boy.

[Eric Hochberg]

Originally Posted by mattfong

Yeah Calvin, what Eric said. Eric, have you seen it? It's quite incredible.

No, I haven't seen it.

[anonymous12251111]

Yes! here are some photos!

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...32#post6405832

Also, where can I order this new Laborie endpin?

Thanks guys.

[anonymous12251111]

Originally Posted by mattfong

Yeah Calvin, what Eric said. Eric, have you seen it? It's quite incredible.

Calvin, lets get together and play that bass duet I wrote, I want to hear that bad boy.

Absolutely.

[mheintz]

Calvin, great looking bass. But I'm wondering if, given your height and the size of the bass, the Laborie is the right option. It may be, but I wonder if the Laborie will stick far enough out to change the distribution of the weight. Just a thought. It's hard to tell from the pictures.

[anonymous12251111]

Originally Posted by mheintz

Calvin, great looking bass. But I'm wondering if, given your height and the size of the bass, the Laborie is the right option. It may be, but I wonder if the Laborie will stick far enough out to change the distribution of the weight. Just a thought. It's hard to tell from the pictures.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I usually sit but my knee is really dampening the back. Any ideas would be helpful! Thanks again!!

[mheintz]

Calvin, one more area for investigation: Albert Laszlo's block. Frankly, I don't know much about it, but he uses some sort of block to stabilize the bass while standing. I can't find anything online, but I know that some fellow TBers have studied with him. It might help to take weight off the left hand without raising the bass up too much. I could be completely off on this one. Just another thought.