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Old 10-17-2008, 08:45 PM
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Hi everyone,

I drove to Cincinnati yesterday to visit/meet Nick Lloyd (and Warren the dog) and try out a bass or two. It's a 6 hour drive from London Ontario but what the heck, I'd never been there before.

I'm pleased to report that I drove back home today. Nnick was the only guy a trusted with the bass and it was worth the drive.

Thanks Nnick for all your help and patience today switching strings as well as putting up with all my email questions before coming down. Thanks also to Adrian Cho for answering questions in the lead up to this purchase.

I have a teacher all lined to get me pointed in the right direction and correct some of my NS Design EUB habits. Very much looking forward to this new endeavor. I'll try me best to spare Mr Warburton and Mr Fuqua any pain and avoid contributing to the downfall of the DB side of TB.

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More details and pics please.
More to the point, CONGRATULATIONS!
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Congratulations! Pics!
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:20 AM
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Hey Steve, we ought to make a STICKY out of your thread on how to make the switch in an intellegent and proper way. You've done everything exactly right, from dealing with Nnick to choosing the right bass for your particular situation!
Youve done your homework, by consulting with a DBassist, Adrian, and all the above show a tremendous amout of of care and motivation.
Please keep us posted on your further adventures!
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Sweet! +1 on the pics request.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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From Nick Lloyd's site.

Carved Spruce top
Willow back and ribs
42" string length

Nick installed a Realist but my goal down the road is to have a condenser mic of some sort to use separately or combine with the Realist.

After trying out different string combinations we settled on Thomastik Spirocore Weich- A,D,G Thomastik Spriocore Mittel- E although I've been told that I've now entered a world of unending string choice and trying out different sets and combinations.

As for pics, a friend is a great photographer and wants to use the bass as a subject so I'll have some good pictures down the road.

The bass is in an upstairs room. I have a humidifier in the room and a bucket of water on the opposite corner beside the heating vent. The room stays in the mid 40% range.

I'm on a learning curve for sure but so far I'm pleased with how the intonation is in the first few positions. Although finding C# on the G is a bit dodgy. My NS playing at least gave me a good foundation for 124 on the left and a good 'rake' for the right hand. I've watched the part of the Rufus Reid DVD on technique and will keep reviewing it along with the Ray Brown clips that have been linked in another thread. I have a Simandl book as well as some good books that I've had for a while which focus on DB technique for jazz playing although my slab knowledge and experience has me in good stead for creating good lines already. Mr Fuqua's book is in the house as well.

My wife plays violin ( or violence depending on the piece) in what she calls her "scritch and scratch" orchestra where they play through simple orchestral pieces. I took the bass out to that and will keep doing so. It's a great low pressure situation for working on bowing and intonation. My wife said the bass sounded like a section of basses.

Have a mild pinch in my neck on the left side but have no idea if it's from the yard work over the weekend or the bass.

I feel like I'm home. Can't wait for my next rehearsal with The Light of East Ensemble with this bass. See link in signature below.
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Ouch! New blisters on the right hand after all these years of playing EUB.
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Did a jazz educational gig at a local public school today and the blister got bigger. Another two public school gigs tomorrow.

I'm actually kind of surprised after quite a few years playing the NS Design EUB. The drummer did comment that I appeared to be digging in a lot more which makes sense compared to the NS.

Time will heal I suppose. I did search on blisters and have some ideas as to how to cope.

Ouch! But the bass sounded great.
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Congrats man. The Shen's seem like great instruments from what I've read.

all the best.
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Ouch! But the bass sounded great.
Yow. Those look more like blisters would form when playing BG... I don't think I ever use that part of my fingertips on DB. I dunno though, I've never really checked.

Actually, I could be wrong.... when I'm digging in on fast stuff, I might get that far up into the tips.
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Yow. Those look more like blisters would form when playing BG... I don't think I ever use that part of my fingertips on DB. I dunno though, I've never really checked.

Actually, I could be wrong.... when I'm digging in on fast stuff, I might get that far up into the tips.
Appreciate the input. I was kind of surprised myself. Now that you mention it it does look like its in the wrong place from what I thought I would be doing. To the right of the blister the finger is nice and firm. I must have changed something without realizing.

The very tips of the fingers are nice and callused from EB playing. I will certainly be more aware of what my finger(s) are doing at rehearsal tonight and make sure I am getting that proper rake happening.

Onward and upward with New Skin and tape in my bag.
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Yow. Those look more like blisters would form when playing BG... I don't think I ever use that part of my fingertips on DB. I dunno though, I've never really checked.

Actually, I could be wrong.... when I'm digging in on fast stuff, I might get that far up into the tips.
Yep. I agree. Mine usually are closer to the nail and are filled with alot of blood and even some bruising.
Not to question your manhood, but mine are about five times the size of yours.....Now about blisters....
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Congrats, and welcome to the curmudgeonly castle! Remember: no pics, no bass.

"Warren the Dog"? Did Nnick get married since the last time I saw him?
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If you can take pictures of your blisters, you can muster one of the bass.

no pic, no bass. come on! we wanna see!
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Yep. I agree. Mine usually are closer to the nail and are filled with alot of blood and even some bruising.
Not to question your manhood, but mine are about five times the size of yours.....Now about blisters....
It's official now. I've been Warburtoned.
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The experience of playing un-amplified in rehearsal with The Light of East Ensemble tonight was something very new for me. Going from using an amp with the EUB to having a ceiling for volume with the Shen will be something to get used to. Of course improved technique will help with the sound. The good news is the ensemble was very pleased with the bass sound. They thought it projected very well and had a wonderful tone. But it will take some time to get used to playing un-amplified.

Looking at the pics, I can't believe its actually in the house. I'm 42 now. Should have done this 10 years ago. No better time than the present. It will feel more real when the credit card statement comes in.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:08 PM
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It's official now. I've been Warburtoned.
My pleasure Steve. Welcome to the club.
I don't dump this **** on just anybody.
Your bass looks great. Stay in touch.
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