Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Double Bass Forums > Basses [DB]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Basses [DB] Discussion on the instrument: double bass, string bass, contrabass, bass viol, acoustic bass, upright bass, standup bass, bass fiddle, bass violin, doghouse bass, bull fiddle... :)


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-15-2007, 05:00 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
New bass ... tough decision!!

Well, I had a year's worth of rental credit with Hammond Ashley, and recently dropped in to return the rental instrument and see what they had in stock to use up my store credit. As usual, they had some truly nice instruments, including a good number in my price range (I was trying to stay below $3000).

The first bass I tried was a Christopher hybrid with Obligatos. It was very nice, very nice indeed. Dark, but spoke clearly through the whole range.

Next was a Christopher 200 series laminate busetto with Superflexibles. Wow. To me, it blew the hybrid away, but I was suspicious that this might be due to the strings. It was beautiful and easy to play, and had lots of character. I had to double check to make sure it wasn't a hybrid! Nice flame maple laminated back and sides add a cool aesthetic, and the neck was a nice chunk of solid flamed maple also, with an ebony fingerboard.

Next, I tried another Chrissie hybrid, with Spirocores. Okay, now that thing just sang. Nicer than the busetto, especially in thumb position, but actually didn't beat it by too much. I was thinking that the busetto with Spiros might have actually come pretty close to matching the hybrid.

Fourth, I tried a 7/8 Christopher laminate 100 series with Obligatos. Wow, that thing had a deep DEEP, loud tone in the low register. Not as clear up high, but it was really something to hear a 100-series Chrissie laminate speak this deeply and well.

Fifth, I tried a Strunal hybrid with Superflexibles. Oh, man, that thing was a dream. It was super nice in all respects, quilted maple sides were gorgeous, and it just sang. It was a bit out of my price range, but I couldn't put it down.

Sixth, a no-name Chinese fully carved bass, not sure what the strings were. This was out of my price range, at $3990, but I wanted to see how the cheapest carved bass they had compared to the laminates and hybrids I was playing. It was very nice, but I actually preferred the Strunal by quite a large margin.

Finally, I tried a Shen hybrid, again, not sure what the strings were. Didn't really care for this one as much ... it was probably my least-liked bass of the day, which really surprised me. I've heard great things about them, and expected it to be a strong contender, but this particular one just didn't do anything for me. It was probably just this specific bass, or an example of a player just not clicking with a perfectly fine instrument.

Okay, by this time, I've put away everything except the Strunal hybrid and the Chrissie laminate busetto. The cheapest bass I tried that day, and the most expensive that I actually considered possible to buy (the carved bass was just for comparison). I went back and forth, playing the same lines on each one over and over. I got Matt at Hammond Ashley to play both of them so I could step back and listen. Also, he has much better technique in thumb position than I do, so I was able to hear what the basses really sounded like through the whole range of the instrument.

Then, I played them some more. One thing I discovered is that I like Superflexibles again, more than I thought I would. I finally came to one last question for Matt. I asked him if the Strunal was fairly typical of the instruments they make, in sound, playability and aesthetics. My rationale was that if this was the be-all-and-end-all of Strunals, well I would take it. He replied that it was pretty standard for Strunals. That reassured me that I would be able to find another one if or when I want to upgrade from a laminate bass ... so I bought the Christopher busetto laminate. The last thought I had in terms of rationalizing this was that a plywood bass might survive bar gigs better. But maybe I'm just fooling myself there. Ah well.

Except that's not the end of the story.

As soon as I talked all this through with my wife, she asked me why I didn't buy the Strunal, and started playing devil's advocate. So much so that I'm considering going back to Hammond Ashley and trying it out again to see if I do indeed want to change my mind.

Like I said ... tough decision!

Cheers,
Liam
Sign in to disble this ad
  #2  
Old 02-15-2007, 05:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Maui
1.) Congratulations... bass shopping is good.
2.) Glad to see that you did it the right way; playing a bunch of basses til something speaks to you.
3.) Would it be possible to try your preferred strings on the finalist choices? I know that's a pain for the shop owner, but it's a big investment on your part.
4.) Like myself, you married well. Your wife is unspeakably cool.

Get yer a$$ back to Hammond-Ashley, stat.

Last edited by Marcus Johnson : 02-15-2007 at 05:12 PM.
  #3  
Old 02-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
Hey, Marcus,

Actually, Superflexibles are fine. I used to use them, and was considering coming back to either them or Oblilgatos, after using a variety of other strings (Eurosonics, Velvet Animas, Eudoxas). I think I'll use them again for a while, at least. They grow on me more every time I play and hear them.

Yes, my wife is indeed unspeakably cool.

And yes, I think a return visit to HA is in order ...

Thanks,
Liam
  #4  
Old 02-15-2007, 08:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
Well ... I did go back to Hammond Ashley this evening. And I now own a Strunal 5/21 Hybrid.

I'll try to take some pics soon ...

Liam
  #5  
Old 02-17-2007, 01:52 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
Okay, got some pics! They don't completely capture how great this thing looks, but they're okay.





I'm really liking this instrument so far.

Liam

Last edited by liam_g : 02-17-2007 at 01:58 AM.
  #6  
Old 02-17-2007, 01:53 PM
Jake deVilliers's Avatar
'Woodworker - Witch Doctor - Luthier'

Owner/The Bass Spa, String Repairman/L & M Vancouver
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Crescent Beach, BC
Supporting Member
Man, that's gorgeous wood on the back!

Congrats!

Jake
  #7  
Old 02-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK
Send a message via MSN to 7string
Congrats on the db !!

It's great to have such support from your wife. My girlfriend is extremely supportive of my music, I'm just lucky that she accepted my Valentines' Day marriage proposal !!
__________________
Sei 7 string - build thread
ACG 9 string - build thread
Extended Range Bass Club member #42
Dingwall Combustion 5 string
James Tyler 4 string
Conklin GT7 fretless
  #8  
Old 02-24-2007, 03:09 PM
Bass Blogger / Contrabass Conversations host
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chicago IL
Send a message via Skype™ to jasonheath
On new basses

This bass looks really nice!

I recently did an interview with a bass player originally from New York named John Grillo. John had some great things to say about buying a modern bass which I think are quite valuable. Basically, he said that you can, with the help of an expert luthier, end up with a bass that is completely different from what you originally buy. This can be good or bad, and John made some really interesting points.

You can listen to the show here.

I bought a new bass (a 1995 Jakstadt) last year, and I am really loving it. I had always played old basses, so this is a change for me, but quite a welcome one.
  #9  
Old 02-27-2007, 04:38 AM
ES1 ES1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Thats a beauty! Hey I noticed the amp you've got, what kind is it? I own a behringer 12 in. that has loads of volume and responds well to the highs and lows.

ES1
  #10  
Old 02-27-2007, 10:43 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nashville
That's a great looking bass! I bet it's hard to keep your hands off. It's too bad that pictures hardly ever do justice to our instruments.
__________________
I've started living a double life! :hiding:
  #11  
Old 02-28-2007, 03:22 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
Quote:
Originally Posted by ES1 View Post
Thats a beauty! Hey I noticed the amp you've got, what kind is it? I own a behringer 12 in. that has loads of volume and responds well to the highs and lows.

ES1
Hey there, Thanks!

As for the amp, it's an Eden CXC110: http://eden-electronics.com/products...div/cxc110.asp. I really like it a lot.

Liam
  #12  
Old 02-28-2007, 03:23 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: nashville, tn
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurtsnyder View Post
That's a great looking bass! I bet it's hard to keep your hands off. It's too bad that pictures hardly ever do justice to our instruments.
So true ...

Thanks, Kurt! See you in a few weeks when I get to Vandy!

Liam
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:04 AM.




Copyright ©2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All right reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.