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06-28-2011, 11:26 AM
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John Patitucci has posted on his Facebook page that he's selling his Vuillaume.
I post this here not as a classified (I've got no affiliation with Patitucci other than as a fan), but rather a seed for discussion about that bass and how interesting it would be to own a bass he has owned.
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06-28-2011, 11:55 AM
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As far as "how interesting it would be to own a bass he has owned", you know it doesn't rub off, right?
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06-28-2011, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua  As far as "how interesting it would be to own a bass he has owned", you know it doesn't rub off, right? | Oh, come on Ed, be a good sport.  |
06-28-2011, 12:07 PM
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06-28-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by odin70 | $4,500 for a Kay.....?
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06-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by farmerdude $4,500 for a Kay.....? | Crazy thing is, Gage will probably get close to that for it. |
06-28-2011, 01:38 PM
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07-01-2011, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by WJGreer ... and how interesting it would be to own a bass he has owned. | Why would it be interesting?
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07-03-2011, 05:16 PM
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07-03-2011, 05:21 PM
| | | | anyone played patitucci's bass yet? any comments? can someone pm me a ballpark price on it? |
08-02-2011, 04:20 PM
| | | | I played it. It was nice. It was also selling for 140k |
08-02-2011, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by drurb Well, that's NYC/Gage prices for you. | I love this. This bass is more than likely in the shop on consignment (as was mine, lo those many years ago), the only reason it's tagged at $4.5K is because that's WHAT THE SELLER WANTS+THE COMMISSION. When I sold mine I think the seller's commission (what Dave made on the sale) was 10 or 15%. So what I was asking for my Kay got bumped so that the price got me exactly what I wanted for it and Dave got what he wanted. And presumably the buyer got what he wanted, that was a nice bass.
The price isn't $4,500 because somebody thinks you're an *******. It's because that is market price here.
If it was in a locale where you didn't have literally thousands of local bassists AND bassists coming form every part of the world (in other words not as much DEMAND) then the asking price would reflect that.
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08-11-2011, 12:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Denver | | Hey Wil-
I played Patitucci's bass at the ISB. The amount the shoulders are cut down made it different than the only other Vuillaume I've played. It had a pillowy sound, rich, but soft and not as attack oriented as the other basses John's used in the past. It didn't knock me out but there were a lot of other basses being played when I was checking it out. I wasn't obviously going to buy so I didn't spend as much time on it
Actually, speaking of basses owned by famous players for sale, the bass that got me was a limited edition Pollman Charlie Haden used to own, though I don't think Gage took it back to NYC, the owner was in San Fran. Much more reasonable at a mere $35k. Nice lion's head and great jazz sound.
Of course, if you're looking for an URB bass here in denver I happen to know of one for sale that is owned by a slightly less notable bassist than Mr. Patitucci, though he also happens to have an Italian name.  |
08-11-2011, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Ruscio Hey Wil-
I played Patitucci's bass at the ISB. The amount the shoulders are cut down made it different than the only other Vuillaume I've played. It had a pillowy sound, rich, but soft and not as attack oriented as the other basses John's used in the past. It didn't knock me out but there were a lot of other basses being played when I was checking it out. I wasn't obviously going to buy so I didn't spend as much time on it
Actually, speaking of basses owned by famous players for sale, the bass that got me was a limited edition Pollman Charlie Haden used to own, though I don't think Gage took it back to NYC, the owner was in San Fran. Much more reasonable at a mere $35k. Nice lion's head and great jazz sound.
Of course, if you're looking for an URB bass here in denver I happen to know of one for sale that is owned by a slightly less notable bassist than Mr. Patitucci, though he also happens to have an Italian name. | LOL. I bet I've seen that bass before, too!
The fact is that I've done exactly two gigs in the last 24 months that called for upright and I was able to convince the director to let me use my Ergo (which is pretty cool, you should check it out sometime). I'm a long way from making a double bass investment. I'll always call you though...
BTW, and off topic, I have a new Skjold (in my avatar). It's something completely different electronics-wise. We should get together and show off gear sometime. |
08-11-2011, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Ruscio Hey Wil-
I played Patitucci's bass at the ISB. The amount the shoulders are cut down made it different than the only other Vuillaume I've played. It had a pillowy sound, rich, but soft and not as attack oriented as the other basses John's used in the past. It didn't knock me out but there were a lot of other basses being played when I was checking it out. I wasn't obviously going to buy so I didn't spend as much time on it
Actually, speaking of basses owned by famous players for sale, the bass that got me was a limited edition Pollman Charlie Haden used to own, though I don't think Gage took it back to NYC, the owner was in San Fran. Much more reasonable at a mere $35k. Nice lion's head and great jazz sound.
Of course, if you're looking for an URB bass here in denver I happen to know of one for sale that is owned by a slightly less notable bassist than Mr. Patitucci, though he also happens to have an Italian name. | Here's pics of the Charlie Haden Pollman when it was at Los Angeles Bassworks before being sent up to the ISB. I agree with Robin, it's one sweet bass:   
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08-11-2011, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by glenfong Here's pics of the Charlie Haden Pollman when it was at Los Angeles Bassworks before being sent up to the ISB. I agree with Robin, it's one sweet bass:
| Someone buy it! There's more to the story I can share if there's interest.
Does anyone know why Patitucci is selling his? Phil Palombi told me John was quite smitten with it when he first got it. |
08-11-2011, 03:21 PM
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08-11-2011, 03:28 PM
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08-11-2011, 05:24 PM
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Builder for Audiokinesis and Fearful speakers Endorser for EA, Roscoe | | | | | I had a Vuillaume about 15 years ago. Now when you say Vuillaume you have to specify which makers in his shop made it. Vuillaume didn't make any basses himself but many think that he had a hand in the varnishing.Mine was a Derazey as I was told. Very similar to Charlie's. I don't know John's. Bought it in London and you don't want to know what I paid for it! At the time I had a pretty perfect Prescott that Gage restored for me. I wound up selling both basses---not for the dough (although it did help by my house) but because I has lusted after both of those basses and after purchasing and setting them up I realized that as jazz instruments, they didn't suit my needs. Did they sound amazing? Yup. The Prescott (which was renecked from 44" to 42 1/2) had a low end that I've never seen equaled.But the G string didn't have the "bloom" that I wanted. The Vuillaume was balanced better than the Prescott, but at least for me, both basses (which were very dark and HUGE sounding) didn't work well for jazz. They didn't "come back" fast enough. (if that makes sense) I was in a shop where Ray Brown was trying some high end English bass that had similar characteristics. He loved it but said "you couldn't walk fast on it" which put my experience to words. My point is that we all have romantic notions about some of the "super basses" but often they don't fit our needs as well as some "lower pedigree" basses. Which is why half of the great jazz recordings that we prize were made on Juzeks. Now, if I were an orchestral player------- |
08-11-2011, 05:28 PM
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Builder for Audiokinesis and Fearful speakers Endorser for EA, Roscoe | | | | | speaking of George, he had two great basses that I remember. One that we hear on most older recordings was a very nice Italian. The other was a Bernadel . ( that George trashed---turned it into splinters--I'm not going to relate the story) Last time I heard, George told me that he picked up an old Czech bass that he was in love with. George is probably my biggest influence in terms of the shear elegance and beauty of his technique. (and everything else, too!)
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