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Old 07-29-2008, 08:03 AM
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Photos of Paul Chambers' bass particularly the scroll

Hey guys.
I have seen a few photos in cd booklets etc of P.C's bass and the carved lady face in the scroll but I can't find any detailed photos on the net.
Can you please post up any pics you have or links to them?
I want to have someone copy his carved scroll so I can fit one to my bass.
From what I understand P.C added that scroll to his bass ( the bass he apparently stole from someones car)
I have some pics of carved lion head scrolls but I would rather copy P.C's bass.
Any pics would be greatly appreciated.
thanks!

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Old 07-31-2008, 04:17 AM
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P.C bass pics

Ok heres what I've found.
If anyone has any more pics please post them up!!

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Old 07-31-2008, 09:23 AM
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Nice pix. Thanks!
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:49 AM
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The ladies head on the PC bass was added and not original to the bass. This was told to me by bassist/Luthier Andrea Fantoni about 35 years ago who knew PC and his bass personally. Fantoni is no longer with us but he lived a long life, unlike PC who died young.

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Hey guys.
I have some pics of carved lion head scrolls but I would rather copy P.C's bass.
Any pics would be greatly appreciated.
thanks!
sam
I've seen this link in one of the threads here.
Check it out, you will find beautiful instruments with
rather interesting head scrolls.
http://www.lamario.ca/gallery.php?lang=english

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Old 07-31-2008, 06:13 PM
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From an Alexander teacher's point of view, Chambers' use of his head and spine is flawless (post #3).
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I've seen this link in one of the threads here.
Check it out, you will find beautiful instruments with
rather interesting head scrolls.
http://www.lamario.ca/gallery.php?lang=english

Giannis
thanks for the link. yes some interesting scrolls there!

i was aware that p.c added that scroll to that bass. but its nice to get some confirmation from someone who knew someone who knew him! thats a cool story ken. what else did he tell you about paul?
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:46 PM
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From an Alexander teacher's point of view, Chambers' use of his head and spine is flawless (post #3).
Nice observation. I think it would be most valuable if you hosted a thread on the relationship of body posture and playing a musical instrument.

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Old 08-02-2008, 02:16 PM
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Nice observation. I think it would be most valuable if you hosted a thread on the relationship of body posture and playing a musical instrument.

It's time!
Thanks for the interest, but anything I would say has been said before, by many people.
What I do is brain work. The fact that an AT teacher accesses the brain through the student's kinesthesia leads most people to misconstrue AT as some kind of bodywork.
All that notwithstanding, the 2 photos in post #3 illustrate an important point. Many people think that in order to play in thumb position, the bass must be high. In the picture on the left, Paul's bass is not at all high on his frame. This allows him to access thumb position (the picture on the right) by hinging at the hips and maintaining a straight spine, a decompressed neck and relaxed trapezius. When a bass is too high, the player stresses the spine by rounding it, tenses the shoulders to lift them to get over the bass shoulders, and compresses the cervical vertebrae.
The AT teacher in me observes some neck tension in the left picture but not the right, and none in post #4. If I had worked for Miles, I'd have been tense, too.
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back on topic....anyone got any more pics?
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The ladies head scroll could have more use than being strictly ornamental.

Imagine having the likeness of another human being looking out over your shoulder as you play.

No, not meant as a hijack at all.

That photo from the Mosaic Box Set is the best I've ever seen outside of some live footage of Paul with Miles. Perhaps you could grab a nice still shot from some of that.
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back on topic....anyone got any more pics?
All I can offer is to Google Images for Paul Chambers bass and you'll get alot of album covers
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Imagine having the likeness of another human being looking out over your shoulder as you play.
I think not!
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:09 PM
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Here's a nice dialog on the PC bass by Ken Smith.

http://www.smithbassforums.com/showthread.php?t=712

There is a lot of folklore surrounding the use of gargoyles and the like with architecture, musical instruments, nautical journeying, religious ceremony, ect. I'm the kind of guy that would think twice before carrying around the likeness of a mythical being to my gigs!

There is one guy who carved a scroll using the clients teeth that were pulled when he was a teenager.......

http://www.messengerbass.com/images/Lion_carving.jpg


To each his own.

I wonder why PC chose to add the lady to his bass?
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I saw the movie Resurrecting the Champ last night. This actor played a small, but important role and all I could think was "Man, that guy looks like Paul Chambers."

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0502015/
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back on topic....anyone got any more pics?
Don't have any more photos close at hand.....I think I've got one somewhere. Somebody must.

With a good close up photo you'll be able to get the detail. I guess that once you have a good model carving of PC's lady, it'll be easy to have a digital CNC carving machine make a copy for production. That's something more than a few people would be interested in I suppose.

Fender has the "Jaco Fretless". Lemur has the "Bromberg Bass" Upton, Lemur, or Kolstein could have the Paul Chambers limited edition or something of the sort.
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:59 AM
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yeh i never thought of that.....mass production of the 'pc scroll' bass.
i dont know exactly why paul added that to his bass. i dont know if it resembles someone he knew.....but if that were the case surely it would be documented somewhere and we would have heard more about it.
that pic from the mosaic box set is quite clear. i dont think i'll bother getting a still image from one of the videos, although i would love to see more pics like this.
i have spoken to a local wood carver who has seen the above pic from the mosaic set, and he can copy it, with the same detail. and i have sourced an off cut piece of maple from another scroll.
i'll post up pics of my new scroll if i go ahead with it.
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