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10-17-2007, 12:21 PM
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10-17-2007, 12:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Brattleboro, VT | | Playing free. Isn't that when the club owner stiffs you at the end of the night and you don't get paid?  |
10-17-2007, 12:43 PM
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10-17-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ehochberg  Yes, these suggestions were made. Since the original question had to do with Jazz charts, it would be very difficult to play good jazz pizz with a bow in your hand. I suggested hanging the bow from the music stand horizontally. This is a proven method that has worked for me as a professional bassist.
To all those who suggest getting a teacher, it seems silly to contribute if you don't have a suggestion that directly answers the question. "Get a teacher" could be the default answer for any question. The questioner is looking for specific advise from this forum regarding his problem. | I saw John Clayton play through a whole tune live with the bow in his hand. He sounded . . . well, like John Clayton!
Can I sum up this thread? The answers so far have been:
1. Get a quiver
2. Hold the bow in your hand
3. Hang it on your music stand
4. Get a teacher.
Good luck!
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10-17-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by adbass I saw John Clayton play through a whole tune live with the bow in his hand. He sounded . . . well, like John Clayton!
Can I sum up this thread? The answers so far have been:
1. Get a quiver
2. Hold the bow in your hand
3. Hang it on your music stand
4. Get a teacher.
Good luck! | I believe play with no undershorts was in there too. |
10-17-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dakpluto I have one major question. Looking thru some of my old jazz charts that I always did on electric, I was looking at some of the written changes between arco and pizzicato. I noticed quite a few of them would have a nice arco line, then suddenly switch to these long pizzicato lines. So my main question....how the freaking hell do you switch so fast from arco to pizzicato? I mean short of dropping the bow (lol, not happening) I just don't see how in less than a beat you get rid of it. Any help/suggestions? | Quote:
Originally Posted by dakpluto Most of the charts I'm talking about are mostly just arco openings and/or closings, and the entire middle of the chart being pizzicato. | A whole lot of grief could have been avoided if we had been told this up front.
For this, you can just grab the bow like a hammer or a tennis raquet. If you're late to the string, start piano so no one hears you start, and smoothly crescendo as necessary.
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10-17-2007, 02:37 PM
| | | | the REAL answer is, quit the bass.
us bass players, always in the back of the band, fighting to be heard, whoring ourselves out to this-country-band or that-jazz-ensemble. You can catch a serious case of bitterness and hostility playing so many different styles. God, I get so angry sometimes. Just thinking about it . . . I . .. AAHHH . . .
OK. under control. So, you can see what becomes of us when we're asked such questions as "what do i do with the bow when i switch from arco to pizz". Now, we may be tempted to simply reply, "stick it where the sun don't shine". Now, I know I've been guilty of it too from time to time . . . just thinking about . . .
DRUMMER CANT KEEP TIME! SINGERS OUT OF TUNE! . . . AHH! . . . MORE WHISKEY! MORE WHISKEY! AHHH . . . LIFE IS PAIN! PAIN! AHHH! . . .
Oh, sorry about that. I really gotta get that under control! Come now TBers, lets keep it together over here on the dark side. |
10-17-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coreybass Playing free. Isn't that when the club owner stiffs you at the end of the night and you don't get paid? | Well, assuming you can get a club gig and an agreement to be paid in the first place. |
10-17-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by damonsmith Well, assuming you can get a club gig and an agreement to be paid in the first place. | s@#$ i'm new in town. i'd play a free club gig!
but then i'd have to kiss tuition/ny spending money goodbye |
10-17-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncletoad I believe play with no undershorts was in there too. | Hmm, that reminds me a lot of that old Tom Petty song... |
10-18-2007, 09:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Herndon, VA | |  No, no, here's how to do it
You've seen the hair-metal bands w/ the guitarist who has a strip of double stick tape on his guitar, and a bunch of picks stuck on? When he throws a pick to the crowd, he rips another one off the tape and plays on. So, just adapt that approach to this situation. Get a big quiver, big enough to fit several bows. Or heck, double stick some extra bows directly on the bass. When the pizz section comes along, throw your bow toward the crowd and pluck away. When going back to arco, grab a new bow. I'd suggest investing in inexpensive bows, though.
Or, you know, get a teacher. |
10-18-2007, 12:40 PM
|  | Journeyman Clam Artist Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, baby | | | Let's really get outside the box. Why should the bow be in motion and not the bass? Fix the bow to a mic stand and rub your bass across it.
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10-19-2007, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Damon Rondeau Let's really get outside the box. Why should the bow be in motion and not the bass? Fix the bow to a mic stand and rub your bass across it. | OMG IT WORKS  |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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