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Old 10-04-2007, 12:31 PM
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Unhappy Start with bass or double bass?

I want to play the double bass but I actually don't know if it's better to start playing the double bass right away. Personally i thought it would be better to begin with a normal bass and after the basics just start playing the double bass, but experts tell me to just start playing the double bass since it's an whole other instrument...

Just for the record... i don't wanna use a bow, but pluck, and that's why i gigured a normal base would be good training...

can you give me some tips??
thnx a lot!
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:34 PM
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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Start on the double bass. It's easy to transition to electric bass from it, but (IMO) not the other way 'round. Plus you will develop your ear quicker on the DB.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:41 PM
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I want to play the double bass but I actually don't know if it's better to start playing the double bass right away. Personally i thought it would be better to begin with a normal bass and after the basics just start playing the double bass, but experts tell me to just start playing the double bass since it's an whole other instrument...
Just for the record... i don't wanna use a bow, but pluck, and that's why i gigured a normal base would be good training...
can you give me some tips??
thnx a lot!
Normal bass. The double bass is the normal bass! It has 400+ years on the slab. Get your definitions right.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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Normal bass. The double bass is the normal bass! It has 400+ years on the slab. Get your definitions right.
Wow!!! You know what he meant. I am a double bass player myself but yet understood he meant more so of the most common bass as normal which happens to be the electric in todays society.

My advice is to pick up the double bass first (just like other posts have said). You will become a much better bassist and develop the right techniques and ear on the real one.

Have fun, for it is the coolest instrument in the world!!!
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:09 PM
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Sure we know what he meant but to call the BG the "normal" bass sure doesn't sit right. It also reveals how the OP views the two instruments. The key really is that they are two different, but related, instruments. If you want to play classical, bluegrass, traditonal jazz, and other genres, it is the DB that is "normal." So, I agree that the OP must decide what he wants to play.

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They're two different instruments. Learn to play the one you will use, or both. Either way, get a teacher or you'll probably hurt yourself.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:33 AM
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Ok, that settles it for me....
thnx a lot guys...
I'll be buying it tomorrow then!!
Here's a picture of my precious baby: http://www.musicallin.nl/upload/imag...full_24225.jpg
It's not the most fancy bass in the world but hell, i'm a beginner...

And i'll be sure to keep this forum in mind for tips 'n tricks
thnx a lot!
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:16 AM
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Hi!

This is a very cheap chinese bass. It's a very bad idea to purchase one of those from a music store, because it won't be setup at all, and therefore it will be unplayable. There's also a significant risk that the bass will self-destruct, and you will lose your investment. If you search the forum, you will find plenty of horror stories about CCBs.

You should go to the Newbie Links at once, and read everything before making a decision. Oh, and it might be a good idea to fill out your profile. I'm guessing you're in the Netherlands; if we knew where you're located, somebody could suggest a luthier you could check out.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:22 AM
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But does that mean that everything from the east is plain crap?
I see a lot of negative posts regarding productions from the east.
I found this double bass: http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a53...current=CB.jpg
It's a bit more expensive (twice as expensive actually), but i called the shop and they said it's made in a factory in the east....

Also, I came to the conclusion that it's better to buy a second hand bass to squeeze in my budget (my biggest enemy), since this gives a reasonable good bass instead of a new one where you pay for the *new* instead of the quality, I just wanted you to back this up.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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you are right in that you are better off finding a higher quality used bass than purchasing a low quality new bass. BUT the best thing you can do is find a local luthier and get to know them well. Perhaps you can find one that is also a dealer who might have some used basses for sale. In any case, you want to have a good relationship with a luthier when the time comes (and it will, count on it) when you need a setup or repair.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:50 AM
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BUT the best thing you can do is find a local luthier and get to know them well.
Great advice!

My personal recommendation: Lucas Suringar in Almere has some very affordable basses. They will be Chinese, too, but they're professionally setup and Lucas has a great trade-in policy if I remember correctly. Just call him to make an appointment, it will be much better, and much more fun than buying a bass online. You get to hang in a shop full of basses, you'll see, hear, and feel for yourself the differences between them. Then you will be able to make an informed decision.
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Thanks a MILLION Timo (and ofcourse everybody else). I'll call Lucas tomorrow right away to make an appointment. With a spot of luck I can make one right away. I'll scrap the chinese cheapskate bass purely on your advice, you seem to be an absolute expert on this

Again thnx a lot, i'll let you know if i succeeded on finding a bass at Lucas's...
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If I never used the bow I don't know if I'd be even half as good as I am today...not to say I'm that good (by any means)...but hey, whatevs. To each his/her own.
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:45 AM
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maybe this dutch db-linksite can be useful for you
http://contrabas.startpagina.nl/
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:12 AM
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Lucas all the way

Im just writing to say that I have rented basses from Lucas Suringer for years now and he is a great guy to deal with. I find the prices of his instruments to be extremely fair and his set-ups are top notch. Plus, he lives on the coolest street I can imagine...andywarholstraat!
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:28 AM
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hi jason
do you have any experience with harry jansen?
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:35 AM
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hi jason
do you have any experience with harry jansen?
I have. I always let my bass serviced by him. No complaints whatsoever. Swift, great quality work, and very reasonably priced.

Cheers,
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:44 AM
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I have. I always let my bass serviced by him. No complaints whatsoever. Swift, great quality work, and very reasonably priced.

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