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Old 04-10-2008, 10:18 AM
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Stolen Bass

Dear Friends:

Yesterday, in West Harlem, between the times of 12:45 - 1:00 PM, my double bass was stolen. It was a Barrie Kolstein redish color with sloping shoulders. I had replaced the Kolstein tailpiece with one from Christian Laborie that was less bulky, and I had a Rabbath "style" hole cut in the bottom of the block for a wooden endpin. There was a wooden endpin in the back pocket, and some jazz charts, as well as my recital music which included Hindemith Sonata, Carmen Fantasy, and music by Berio, Barbé and Rabbath. The bottom right violin corner was also cracked as I was about to take that to get repaired. I am attaching two pictures of me and my bass a year and a half ago.

I would appreciate it if everyone would keep their ears and eyes open and please let me know if they hear of any leads whatsoever. At this point I'm also looking for a bass to borrow. If anyone has a second bass of any kind, even plywood, I would be forever grateful if you could lend it for some gigs i have coming up that I have already made commitments too.

I appreciate your help, and sympathy! It is a really beautiful bass and I can't describe how horrible I feel after putting so many hours into something. It feels like my child was taken from me.

(I apologize for the mass e-mail I am not in the right mindset and trying to save time so I copied my entire address book)


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Yesterday I received a photo taken on a blackberry by an honors student at CCNY from the advisor to the honors center as well as from the International Studies Coordinator. The photo was of a sign posted around 120th st. and Broadway saying “Upright Bass Found, black case” and a phone number. I also received a phone call from a student at Manhattan school of music (almost at the same time in fact) who had seen my posting on Talkbass.com. Someone approached his friend saying they bought a double bass off the street and they think it was stolen and they were looking for the owner.



After receiving no response from 1:30 pm until 5:00 pm, I went to the precinct with the detectives that were on the case. We made repeated phone calls that were recorded and finally someone picked up the phone around 6:30 pm. The man made me describe the bass, music in the case etc because he said many people were calling about the bass. He told me he had my bass and we could meet the next day because he had a race to go to in central park that evening. The police were not ready to leave this bass for another minute as it was a grand larceny case (the instrument is valued at 10k). We went in their car and zipped down to his residence. It turns out he is an extremely kind man who loves jazz. Two hours after the bass was stolen he saw someone who he described as “homeless” dragging the bass by its neck down Broadway. He thought the neck was broken and it was obvious that this was a stolen instrument. He knew this must mean a lot to the owner and that it was of some value so he tried to purchase the instrument directly from the thief. The thief wanted $100 but he told him he only had $51 and some change in his pocket. He purchased the instrument for this amount and started posting signs from Lincoln Center up to the 130’s. This was the sign the CCNY student saw, and he also spoke with the local music schools – hence the phone call.



When we arrived he would not even take the $50 he spent to get the bass. He said he just wanted this instrument to go back to the owner. I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to have my beloved double bass back in my possession!!! The neck was actually unscathed, and the damages were mostly to the case. The bass was pretty beat up with two of the violin corners broken, but not past the purfling. The bridge was moved 6 inches to one side, but overall I believe all the damages are entirely cosmetic. The bass is now with its maker, Barrie Kolstein, for a complete overhaul and inspection.

I am extremely touched by the musician community here who has been nothing except for helpful and empathetic. I would like to thank the students who pitched in and everyone for keeping their eyes and ears open. The detectives admitted that if it were not for everyone’s help we would probably never have found the instrument. Most of all I would like to thank the man who purchased the bass who I shall leave nameless. I shall be forever grateful. I would also like to thank musicians who have offered to loan me instruments - I have counted as many as ten! A very very special thanks to Ron Carter who immediately was on the phone with David Gage and paid to have a bass rented for me for a month! Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate the help and am so happy to have my woman home!

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Dear World:



Yesterday I received a photo taken on a blackberry by an honors student at CCNY from the advisor to the honors center as well as from the International Studies Coordinator. The photo was of a sign posted around 120th st. and Broadway saying “Upright Bass Found, black case” and a phone number. I also received a phone call from a student at Manhattan school of music (almost at the same time in fact) who had seen my posting on Talkbass.com. Someone approached his friend saying they bought a double bass off the street and they think it was stolen and they were looking for the owner.



After receiving no response from 1:30 pm until 5:00 pm, I went to the precinct with the detectives that were on the case. We made repeated phone calls that were recorded and finally someone picked up the phone around 6:30 pm. The man made me describe the bass, music in the case etc because he said many people were calling about the bass. He told me he had my bass and we could meet the next day because he had a race to go to in central park that evening. The police were not ready to leave this bass for another minute as it was a grand larceny case (the instrument is valued at 10k). We went in their car and zipped down to his residence. It turns out he is an extremely kind man who loves jazz. Two hours after the bass was stolen he saw someone who he described as “homeless” dragging the bass by its neck down Broadway. He thought the neck was broken and it was obvious that this was a stolen instrument. He knew this must mean a lot to the owner and that it was of some value so he tried to purchase the instrument directly from the thief. The thief wanted $100 but he told him he only had $51 and some change in his pocket. He purchased the instrument for this amount and started posting signs from Lincoln Center up to the 130’s. This was the sign the CCNY student saw, and he also spoke with the local music schools – hence the phone call.



When we arrived he would not even take the $50 he spent to get the bass. He said he just wanted this instrument to go back to the owner. I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to have my beloved double bass back in my possession!!! The neck was actually unscathed, and the damages were mostly to the case. The bass was pretty beat up with two of the violin corners broken, but not past the purfling. The bridge was moved 6 inches to one side, but overall I believe all the damages are entirely cosmetic. The bass is now with its maker, Barrie Kolstein, for a complete overhaul and inspection.

I am extremely touched by the musician community here who has been nothing except for helpful and empathetic. I would like to thank the students who pitched in and everyone for keeping their eyes and ears open. The detectives admitted that if it were not for everyone’s help we would probably never have found the instrument. Most of all I would like to thank the man who purchased the bass who I shall leave nameless. I shall be forever grateful. I would also like to thank musicians who have offered to loan me instruments - I have counted as many as ten! A very very special thanks to Ron Carter who immediately was on the phone with David Gage and paid to have a bass rented for me for a month! Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate the help and am so happy to have my woman home!

John Romey
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Dear World:



Yesterday I received a photo taken on a blackberry by an honors student at CCNY from the advisor to the honors center as well as from the International Studies Coordinator. The photo was of a sign posted around 120th st. and Broadway saying “Upright Bass Found, black case” and a phone number. I also received a phone call from a student at Manhattan school of music (almost at the same time in fact) who had seen my posting on Talkbass.com. Someone approached his friend saying they bought a double bass off the street and they think it was stolen and they were looking for the owner.



After receiving no response from 1:30 pm until 5:00 pm, I went to the precinct with the detectives that were on the case. We made repeated phone calls that were recorded and finally someone picked up the phone around 6:30 pm. The man made me describe the bass, music in the case etc because he said many people were calling about the bass. He told me he had my bass and we could meet the next day because he had a race to go to in central park that evening. The police were not ready to leave this bass for another minute as it was a grand larceny case (the instrument is valued at 10k). We went in their car and zipped down to his residence. It turns out he is an extremely kind man who loves jazz. Two hours after the bass was stolen he saw someone who he described as “homeless” dragging the bass by its neck down Broadway. He thought the neck was broken and it was obvious that this was a stolen instrument. He knew this must mean a lot to the owner and that it was of some value so he tried to purchase the instrument directly from the thief. The thief wanted $100 but he told him he only had $51 and some change in his pocket. He purchased the instrument for this amount and started posting signs from Lincoln Center up to the 130’s. This was the sign the CCNY student saw, and he also spoke with the local music schools – hence the phone call.



When we arrived he would not even take the $50 he spent to get the bass. He said he just wanted this instrument to go back to the owner. I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to have my beloved double bass back in my possession!!! The neck was actually unscathed, and the damages were mostly to the case. The bass was pretty beat up with two of the violin corners broken, but not past the purfling. The bridge was moved 6 inches to one side, but overall I believe all the damages are entirely cosmetic. The bass is now with its maker, Barrie Kolstein, for a complete overhaul and inspection.

I am extremely touched by the musician community here who has been nothing except for helpful and empathetic. I would like to thank the students who pitched in and everyone for keeping their eyes and ears open. The detectives admitted that if it were not for everyone’s help we would probably never have found the instrument. Most of all I would like to thank the man who purchased the bass who I shall leave nameless. I shall be forever grateful. I would also like to thank musicians who have offered to loan me instruments - I have counted as many as ten! A very very special thanks to Ron Carter who immediately was on the phone with David Gage and paid to have a bass rented for me for a month! Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate the help and am so happy to have my woman home!

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Old 04-10-2008, 10:49 AM
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sorry i think the pictures did not attach
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I'm in the area, so I'll keep an eye out.

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Old 04-10-2008, 11:31 AM
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actually the thief was running south on Broadway at 138th street so right into your neighborhood... african american wearing all black and red hat. Thanks..all help is appreciated...
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:36 AM
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actually the thief was running south on Broadway at 138th street so right into your neighborhood... african american wearing all black and red hat. Thanks..all help is appreciated...
what's the color of the gig bag?
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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I'm on the Island so I doubt I'll run across it, if I do I'll give you heads up though.

The guy was running? Did he grab it from you while you were walking? That's pretty messed up. :\
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:44 AM
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Very sorry to hear that. I'm not in NY, but the first thing I would do would be to check pawn shops in that area and contact as many luthiers/bass dealers in the city as you can.
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II've done all of that.. and tomorrow going with detectives to all the pawn shops. Thanks

He busted my car window and ripped it out the passenger door (no idea how he managed to make it fit through) I left it for 30 m while i took my gamba in...
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:38 PM
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my experience

Years ago in Chicago, I had a bass stolen. I lived in an area that was being gentrified at the time. There was a strong gang presence but since they knew that I was a musician, I was considered "cool".
Someone broke into my house and stole a new Peter Elias bass.
The police were totally useless. I never really had contact with the gang guys, but approached them while they were doing their typical Friday drug business. I introduced myself and told them that my instrument was stolen and that I'd pay a coupla hundred to get any info. I was pretty sure that they didn't do it as the rules dictated that the gang guys would be in serious **** for doing any theft or vandalism in their "business " area.
The gang guys can find out info that other people don't have access to. They told me that it was uncool to steal my instrument and they would check it out and didn't want any money.
Within 8 hours I had my bass back at my house. They found it and brought back to my house. I held out two hundred and they wouldn't take it. They said that they had to pay $125 to get it back and that's all they wanted. Turns out a 15 year old kid exchanged it for $75 and a half a gram of coke.
I have no delusions about the moral strength of character of these guys, but it worked out well for me.
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Years ago in Chicago, I had a bass stolen. I lived in an area that was being gentrified at the time. There was a strong gang presence but since they knew that I was a musician, I was considered "cool".
Someone broke into my house and stole a new Peter Elias bass.
The police were totally useless. I never really had contact with the gang guys, but approached them while they were doing their typical Friday drug business. I introduced myself and told them that my instrument was stolen and that I'd pay a coupla hundred to get any info. I was pretty sure that they didn't do it as the rules dictated that the gang guys would be in serious **** for doing any theft or vandalism in their "business " area.
The gang guys can find out info that other people don't have access to. They told me that it was uncool to steal my instrument and they would check it out and didn't want any money.
Within 8 hours I had my bass back at my house. They found it and brought back to my house. I held out two hundred and they wouldn't take it. They said that they had to pay $125 to get it back and that's all they wanted. Turns out a 15 year old kid exchanged it for $75 and a half a gram of coke.
I have no delusions about the moral strength of character of these guys, but it worked out well for me.
interesting parallel. the bass got stolen near a soon-to-be gentrified zone.
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It was a black gig bag with two small wheels attached to the back. Its actually a cool case with wheels build onto the case. There was no bow (thankfully!) but there was a pocket full of music I was preparing for a recital in may and some jazz charts, and oh yeh it has a rabbath hole for an endpin and a wooden peg with a black rubber cane bottom in the back pocket also

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yeh actaully the street i was on has been pretty gentrified... but i'm not sure about the gang presence. perhaps there is but I dont' live in that neighborhood. There are always groups of guys hanging around on the streets.. but that is pretty typical for that area in NY not to say they are up to no good.... perhaps their apartments are just small

The police are taking me to pawn shops tomorrow... we'll see.. keeping fingers crossed
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John,

I see you've posted here as well. Good, under the circumstances. Did you witness the running thief, or someone else?
I replied to your posting in "for sale".
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Thieves usually blunder.

Glad you recovered your bass! Often the thief is stupid and disposes of the instrument cheaply, or foolishly, to be rid of the problem. Here are two examples:

1. A bass teacher's assistant at New England Conservatory stole his boss' bass and immediately drove to New York for a quick sale. He claimed his uncle died and left it to him, but he couldn't play it and wanted a quick sale. The Luthier looked inside and recognized a pencil mark name of a Boston repairman ("Lenny"). The thief was told to "come back tomorrow afternoon" after the luthier had time to appraise it. When the thief returned there was a plain clothes cop in the shop who arrested him right after a check was exchanged for the bass. They when to criminal court and the judge sentenced the Professor's Assistant to a year's probation plus fines to include court costs and recovery expenses. The thief's reputation was ruined, of course.

2. In Cambridge, MA, a professional 'cellist used to ride his bike home from rehearsal with his 'cello strapped to his back. When he got home he put the 'cello down on the porch floor and negotiated his bicycle through the doors and up to the 2nd floor. When he returned to the porch the 'cello was gone! It could not have been two or three minutes it was left alone. The daily newspapers covered the story because the 'cello was worth more than $1 Million dollars! Several days later a woman several blocks away noticed a 'cello in a dumpster when she emptied her rubbish and called the Police, who remained baffled. Then, two days later the 'cello case was found in the same dumpster! Neighbors saw who threw it away alerted Police again. It seems a young girl who threw away the 'cello and case had a boy friend who was a roofer who's job site was the 'cello owner's building. She said he didn't know how to play "that thing", so he gave it to her. She hated it, but liked the case which she hoped her "carpenter" boyfriend would convert into a rack for her big collection of rock and roll CDs! But he refused to convert it saying, I'm no carpenter, I'm a roofer. Throw the thing away.

Lesson: don't turn you back on even a cheap instrument. There are too many thieves afoot and no more room in the jails. I like to publicize pictures of my bass because it is so unique it will be hard to go unnoticed if stolen. See ATTACHMENTS below. #1: After conversion from 3 to 5 string neck. #2: A day at the beach! (4 strings on a 3 string neck).

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passed the info on to musicians I know in NY... good luck. I'm so sorry.

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i have not recovered my bass.. not sure why you thought so...
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crappy thing mate. You'll find it. Have faith

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II've done all of that.. and tomorrow going with detectives to all the pawn shops. Thanks

He busted my car window and ripped it out the passenger door (no idea how he managed to make it fit through) I left it for 30 m while i took my gamba in...
I feel for you and hope you get your bass back, however if you leave your stuff in your car in plain sight you're inviting someone to break in and steal it especially in areas where jobs are scarce and people are living on the margins.
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I feel for you and hope you get your bass back, however if you leave your stuff in your car in plain sight you're inviting someone to break in and steal it especially in areas where jobs are scarce and people are living on the margins.

Why make excuses. It's almost like you're justifying the theft.
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Why make excuses. It's almost like you're justifying the theft.
Let's not be foolish...Okay?

Let's be real...

If you think you can leave your stuff around and there be no possibility that it will be stolen... I don't know what world you are living in.
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