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03-16-2009, 03:08 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Top of bass collapsing?
The top of my kay seems to be getting more warped each day. It is very bad looking if you look at the bass from the side. The F holes on each side- on the inner sides- are much lower than the other sides.
Is there any cheap way that this can be repaired? I dont want it to like crack! I need this bass till summer!
Does it need to be repaired soon?
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03-16-2009, 03:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Brandon, March 5, 2009 my bass is in nice shape. Just had repairs done. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko  The top of my kay seems to be getting more warped each day. It is very bad looking if you look at the bass from the side. The F holes on each side- on the inner sides- are much lower than the other sides.
Is there any cheap way that this can be repaired? I dont want it to like crack! I need this bass till summer!
Does it need to be repaired soon? |  |
03-16-2009, 03:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC, Astoria | | | What side is the soundpost on? When I got my Kay, it was all beat up and the soundpost was under the E string, resulting the treble side F hole caving in a little. |
03-16-2009, 03:38 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Yea I know. But it is coming apart again. And its real bad now. My teacher says what it needs is un-reparable.
The neck needs replaced. And fingerboard. Front and back are bowing out.
Its real bad. Thats what I keep trying to tell everyone here. |
03-16-2009, 03:39 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | The luthier said the sound post was perfect. He said the water damage had caused the wood to soften, and also that is why I have to have it re-glued every month. |
03-16-2009, 03:52 PM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | I would go with what your teacher and luthier say, since they can see the bass, and we can't. If you actually want any useful advice here on TB, you'd have to post some pretty in depth pictures. Even then, people who can actually see the bass are in a better position to make an accurate assessment.
May I also respectfully suggest that those who find this thread superfluous ignore it, and perhaps also the creator of it? Moderators and administrators are on the job, as usual.  |
03-16-2009, 03:55 PM
| | | | Try to play this bass as long as humanly possible without spending more $ on it. Any extra $ you have save for the next bass whenever you can get it. |
03-16-2009, 04:27 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | True. I have put well over $1000 into this bass, and the story stays the same, it no longer can hold it self up.
Time for it to pass on.
When the time comes, I will give this bass to someone in dire need. Not going to get any money out of it and have the person have to put 2x they pay into it. |
03-16-2009, 04:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | One of my old plys (can't recall which one) deformed like yours is doing. Although it looked scary, it didn't affect the performance at all (it found its "new shape" after awhile and just stayed there). Granted, mine wasn't submerged in flood waters, but I think you should just chance it and see if you can get a couple more months out of it. |
03-16-2009, 04:57 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Yes like the others said, I will just see what happens. If it breaks, well, it breaks. I can not do anything for that. I am not going to spend the money (probably thousands) To fix it.
If it breaks though, I have ANOTHER bass neck to hang from my wall!
I bet I could make some modern art from it if it breaks.
DONT worry! It will never be fire wood.
Setting aside my jokes. I will give it to someone if it holds, My friend maybe. And a luthier or someone who wants to practice the art of restoring, if it breaks. |
03-16-2009, 05:53 PM
|  | Tolerated User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: State College, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Johnson One of my old plys (can't recall which one) deformed like yours is doing. Although it looked scary, it didn't affect the performance at all (it found its "new shape" after awhile and just stayed there). Granted, mine wasn't submerged in flood waters, but I think you should just chance it and see if you can get a couple more months out of it. | Yeah, what Marcus says. From a materials perspective, plywood can take quite a bit of deflection. Just because the top changes shape doesn't necessarily mean it is going to crack. I would be more concerned that the sides and the neck joints remain in place. |
03-16-2009, 06:16 PM
| | Tolerated User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: State College, PA | | I would love to see pics of that bass!  |
03-16-2009, 06:24 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | I got to talk my mom into letting me get a supporting membership. I ran out of pic space and it says I need a supporting membership now.
Soon I will. |
03-16-2009, 06:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wheeling WV / Pittsburgh PA | | | My 63 M1 had a patch under the treble side bridge foot that the luthier said was "delaminating". But it was stable. |
03-16-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko I got to talk my mom into letting me get a supporting membership. I ran out of pic space and it says I need a supporting membership now.
Soon I will. | If you email them to me I'd be happy to post them. Click my name and scroll down to the send email button. |
03-16-2009, 07:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | | Brandon.... there's a guy here who plays Hawaiian music on on old ply bass.... I wish I had a picture of it. The bridge is actually broken in half, and laying down in an "L" shape (hard to describe). The bridge feet themselves are embedded into the top, into at least the second ply of wood. In addition to the ff holes, there are several additional punctures in various spots. The entire upper right side shoulder is missing, and replaced by thin plywood, attached with screws and Bondo. The neck joint and heel has broken, and is also screwed/Bondo-ed together. The strings are weedwackers from Home Depot. The whole thing looks like it crawled out of a toxic waste dump.
He's recorded several albums on this bass. Somehow, he makes it work, and his records sound great. These old ply basses are pretty hard to kill off. |
03-17-2009, 07:05 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Wow. I would like to see that!
I just hope my kay does not get that bad!
But at least it should hold up, if his did. |
03-17-2009, 07:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Boston, MA | | | Went to a gig a few weeks ago and saw a guy playing an old Kay with a golfball-sized hole punched/worn through one of the upper ribs.
Sounded fine; he played the daylights out of it. IMHO, its not about the bike. |
03-17-2009, 07:53 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | My friend has a nice carved bass with a baseball sized hole on the side. Still sounds great. I dont think some holes affect the sound at all. |
03-17-2009, 07:54 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska | | | Although after I glued my kays side back (it had totally come undone all along the side) It sounded so much richer and much nicer. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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