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Old 03-10-2009, 04:17 PM
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Very old instrument found on craigslist

Help me identify the age and origins of this bass I picked up on Craiglist yesterday. Based on the tuners and bouts, I'm guessing it is German and more than 100 years old.

Any ideas?

It needs the neck reset, but the body has no open cracks or seams.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:24 PM
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I'd rather not say the exact price. Suffice it to say it was well-priced. After I invest the money needed to fix it up, I think it will make a rather nice instrument. I have no idea what it's worth will be, since I haven't really been able to play it.

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Old 03-11-2009, 04:47 AM
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nice job. is it possible to shim and/or replace the finger board instead of resetting the neck?
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Is it ply or carved? The shape of it remindes me of a kay that has been refinished, but I'm pretty aweful at guessing what things are on the interweb. kurt- I get the vibe that the neck needs to be reset because of failure, the heel looks cracked in the pics.
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Looks French from the outline of the heel

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Old 03-11-2009, 06:28 AM
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[quote=uprightben;7100067]Is it ply or carved? The shape of it remindes me of a kay that has been refinished, but I'm pretty aweful at guessing what things are on the interweb. /QUOTE]

Good eye. I think it's actually a King, made by the H.N. White Co. in Cleveland, OH.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:12 AM
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Good eye. I think it's actually a King, made by the H.N. White Co. in Cleveland, OH.
Wow! I never would have guessed that. Now I'd really like to hear what it turns out to be.
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Well what ever it is, it looks beautiful!

But I seriously doubt its a king. I have never heard or seen of a king built to that quality.

hope you like it!
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:22 AM
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The wood makes the bass look like its 150 years old.... so its NOT a king for sure..
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The wood makes the bass look like its 150 years old.... so its NOT a king for sure..
You sure you wanna go toe to toe with that guy?
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:46 AM
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You sure you wanna go toe to toe with that guy?
Yeah, that would be like you goin' toe to toe with Scotty.
However, I suspect something pretty funny is going on.
A good shot of the scroll would seal the deal.

Watch this, Toodles.....:

Hey Arnold....lookit the ACTION on that mother******!

And, tingj....please make yer god damn bed before you post a scroll shot.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:57 AM
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Hmm... if king made basses like this... I think I would buy one! Looks sweet... are they plywood if its king?
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:58 AM
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oh and I have also never seen a king with those tuners.... ??? who knows... Take it to a luthier or sumtin.
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yeah if you look at this pic the top looks laminated.
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Brandon,
King Moretone differs from the King Doublebass of today...

http://www.americanstandardbass.com/kingData2.html
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:43 AM
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Scroll down to the middle of this page and you can see some detailed pictures of the old Kings (great basses). I'm just a casual observer, but there are many similarities I see (the heel of the neck/neck angle and overstand, the shape of the top, the button). Was the neck broken on this bass? I can't tell if that line in the picture is a break, but if it is that's exactly where all of those Kings would break their necks (there are some pix on the Fretwell page of Kings with the neck break, too).

Maybe you found the old grandfather of the HN White Kings!
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