A what bass???? Weitzl???

Brandon Tuomiko · #1 10-28-2008, 07:12 PM

Ive been looking to trade my Kay C1 bass for a ??Weitzl?? Bass. It is from 1960. In absolute never played brand new condition. The only damage what so ever is a very small pea sized dent in the top but you cant see it. !!! But the brand is unknown right now, but I think they said Weitzle or something like that. has anyone heard of them or a similar brand? I am getting it for $2000 off from a sale price and trade in. For a meer $800.

Opinions will be great!!

Marcus Johnson · #2 10-28-2008, 07:24 PM

Gesundheit.

Gearhead43 · #3 10-28-2008, 08:02 PM

Why are you trading your Kay in for that again?

You didn't actually say anything about why the Schnitzle bass is better.

Andrew McGregor · #4 10-29-2008, 03:07 AM

Pictures, or we have no idea what it is.

Brandon Tuomiko · #5 10-30-2008, 06:25 AM

I am not sure if thats the brand. But I have to say it sounds like a deal. My kay is getting old and doesnt look so good. And this thing is like brand new and carved unlike my kay bass.

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M Ramsey · #6 10-30-2008, 06:44 AM

But what does it sound like? I'd favor broken in tone and sound over shiny new, unless it was a killer sounding bass.

Blake Bass · #7 10-30-2008, 06:49 AM

I personally would keep the Kay. It is worth a lot more than the schnitzel bass and will retain it's value even if it is in less than perfect condition.
If the deal sounds too good to be true then it probably is.

bankerwithabass · #8 10-30-2008, 07:47 AM

Or if you really like this shiny new bass I would just buy it and keep the Kay to boot!! That way if it ends up not being so good then you can sell it and you still have your Kay.

Brandon Tuomiko · #9 10-30-2008, 08:15 AM

im trading the kay cuse its sooo old and falling apart and cant even try to compare to the sound that the ??weitzle?? bass can make.

It may be a Meitzel bass too.

Brandon Tuomiko · #10 10-30-2008, 08:16 AM

oh and my kay isnt worth nearly as much as this bass

Eric Hochberg · #11 10-30-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko

oh and my kay isnt worth nearly as much as this bass

Kays have been known to get upwards of $3500. Are you sure you know what you have there?

jtlownds · #12 10-30-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon Tuomiko

It may be a Meitzel bass too.

Brandon, is it possible that it is a Meisel bass? These are good basses. A far better bass than any Kay, IMHO. I have owned both.

Brandon Tuomiko · #13 10-30-2008, 11:27 AM

Yes it is a Meisel. And no my bass is not as nice as the $3500, if it were restored yes but not now.

Bass Barrister · #14 10-30-2008, 12:07 PM

"carved" Meisel for $2,000?? I'm suspicious. Are you positive this is not a laminate or hybrid bass?

Who is offering this bass for sale? Is it a bass luthier or at least a string instrument shop? Is this the only bass you've checked out?

I'm not even sure where current Meisel stock comes from? China? Romania? Germany? Meisel had some decent basses back in the day, mostly German made and student level. I'm not sure what they've got now, but would investigate that if buying a bass in that price range.

Please note: I'm not dismissing the potential for a good deal here, but I'd be very cautious. There are many decent basses, mainly laminates and hybrids, out there in that general price range. The trick is to do the legwork to find one.

anonymous02282011 · #15 10-30-2008, 12:16 PM

meisel did just go out of business . . .

jtlownds · #16 10-30-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Barrister

"carved" Meisel for $2,000?? I'm suspicious. Are you positive this is not a laminate or hybrid bass?

His initial post said that he was getting it for $800. That would be a decent buy for a meisel lamy.

The Meisels are all German made. They initially made their own, but for the last 20 years or so have been made by Musima. Someone posted something here, that Meisel just recently went out of business. I don't know if that's true or not.

Brandon Tuomiko · #17 10-30-2008, 01:22 PM

1960. FOR Sale at $2400, not $2000, On sale at $1299, and trade in for my bass for around $800 or so.

It is carved, and in new condition. Being sold at a guitar and drum store. Very small, they got the bass from the origional owner, well actually maybe the owner is the store owner.

No scams, a legit Meisel bass.

Brandon Tuomiko · #18 10-30-2008, 01:26 PM

This is so far the only bass ive checked out. And I am most likley getting it... im only 14 so quality isnt an issue. but i dont want crap

Brandon Tuomiko · #19 10-30-2008, 01:29 PM

and the kay is trade $800+kay.

Marcus Johnson · #20 10-30-2008, 02:14 PM

Hey Brandon... coupla red flags for me.

The "guitar and drum shop" thing is usually not the ideal environment for shopping for a double bass. It's best to try and shop from a DB shop, where someone who is educated in the world of double basses can guide you. I know you may not have that option in Omaha, but it still is not a good reason to pull the trigger on a bass just because it's the only one standing in a shop.

I agree with Bass Barrister.... the price seems low for a carved Meisel. How did you discern that it's actually a carved bass? I suppose it's possible that the shop owner wants to clear some floor space.... but then, why would he be taking your Kay in trade? I also feel that you should do a little more research on the current value of old Kay basses- you may be surprised, as Eric pointed out earlier.

Finally.... quality is an issue whether you're shopping at 14 or 114. I owned a Meisel ply for many years, did a ton of recording and live work on it. It was a good solid touring bass. I believe I lucked out and got a good one, because I've played other Meisels over the years that were pretty unspectacular.

If you can find a pro double bassist to accompany you to the shop and check it out, that could help. If you can't do that, go take a bunch of pics of it (everything, scroll, fingerboard, any labels inside,ff holes), and post them here so we can help you out.