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09-04-2007, 09:42 PM
| | Destroyobot | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | What should I do while I wait?
Hello,
I am looking forward to receiving my UB Hybrid, but it wont be here till the end of October. I am having a hard time dealing with this because I am so looking forward to playing. What would be a good way to occupy this time before I recieve the instrument? I have a teacher lined up already,so I guess that's one thing off the list...
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09-04-2007, 10:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | | Listen to Ray Brown, Paul Chambers, Ron Carter, Charles Mingus and Scott LaFaro. That's just a start. Spend some time with Ellington (with Jimmy Blanton) and Basie too.
The more you listen the more you will absorb and the more you will tend to emulate once you develop your skills. |
09-04-2007, 10:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Orange, NJ | | | This is Richard Davis from Art Taylor's Notes And Tones
"...I would be practicing before I even saw the bass, because my mind would be on it. I would wipe everything out of my mind except the instrument. I almost felt as if I were playing even when I was walking down the street. Sometimes I used to walk in the street in a daze, thinking about the bass and running a scale or chord. I could visualize it on the instrument. When I got to the instrument, it was just a matter of applying the physical to the mental"
There you go! |
09-04-2007, 11:45 PM
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Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | Can you read music in bass clef? If not, learning to recognise the notes would be a good thing to do. |
09-04-2007, 11:45 PM
| | | | You near Winterpeg? L&M rents..... |
09-05-2007, 07:17 AM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | | You could try to learn the positions and fingering, that is, the "map" of the fingerboard. I used to do this and visualize it while away from the bass. Just a thought. |
09-05-2007, 08:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Culpeper, VA | | I've been waiting for my 5-string Upton hybrid since late June. It was supposed to ship yesterday, but I haven't recieved any word about tracking numbers and shipping info. I've been playing my Palatino, but also I like to further torture myself by going to the Upton Bass website and exploring all of the other links and pages I had been ignoring.
Oh! It's 10am in Connecticut right now as I am typing this. They should be open.
Hmmm... I wonder if I can place a personal long distance call while I am here at work? 
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09-05-2007, 08:15 AM
|  | Journeyman Clam Artist Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, baby | | | Start thinking about playing a 12-bar blues in F -- a jazz blues with a VI / II / V turnaround in it. For jazz, Steve is basically going to introduce you to the method that Ed Fuqua (among others) has been espousing around here. As each chord goes by, you'll be playing a simple quarter-note part using the 4-note arpeggios. Once you get familiar with this, he's gonna get you going on blues in all keys. If you don't know what any of this means, don't freak -- he's a teacher, he'll teach.
After blues? Rhythm changes. Steve likes "Oleo" for a head.
Start looking at "Autumn Leaves".
Start thinking about tunes you'd like to work with.
Work on your sight-reading in bass clef.
L&M in Peg City and double bass is a hit and miss proposition. We really don't have any strings programs left in public school bands, so they're not really in the rental market any more. They usually have at least one bass in the shop these days, though, as well as strings and rosin. That's more than they had not that long ago when the DB shelf was completely bare.
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09-05-2007, 10:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | | | Get your hands on a copy of Modern Reading Text in 4/4 by Lewis Bellison and a metronome. Spend the time reading, singing, and clapping the rhythms. Learning to sight read rhythm will give you a HUGE head start. |
09-05-2007, 11:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada | | | Play video games and watch TV. |
09-05-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Damon Rondeau  L&M in Peg City and double bass is a hit and miss proposition. We really don't have any strings programs left in public school bands, so they're not really in the rental market any more. They usually have at least one bass in the shop these days, though, as well as strings and rosin. That's more than they had not that long ago when the DB shelf was completely bare. | Wow, that's a bummer...sorry I made wrong assumption. L&M here in Van is hoppin' right now with school starting and even when it's "slow" they have at least six to ten instruments and two or three EUBs most of which are rentable.
Well then, hit the Louis Bellson rhythm reading book and work on ear training. I'd also start stretching and doing breathing exercises as you need to be really in tune with yer body to learn the best ways of playing the bass. That'll help calm antsyness the waiting can bring on too. |
09-05-2007, 05:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | | Just bought the book. |
09-05-2007, 05:11 PM
| | Destroyobot | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | I can read Bass cleff, I am good with site reading and ryhtyms. I know arpeggios, triads, modes, and all sorts of jass techniques (two feel, dominant approach etc). Any books that are good for history of jazz/classical as well as the instrument itself? |
09-05-2007, 05:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | | Great! Lots of players, young and old don't know much theory so you are already on your way. If you haven't begun to invert chords that would be good to work on. For example, spell your triads starting on the third and fifth. Then do the same with sevenths.
I'm working on this myself. 
As far as books go, there are a few biographies of Mingus.
The one by Priestley is good but a bit boring.
Beyond the Underdog is certainly not boring, but filled with such self-indulgent bragging and sleaze that I don't recommend it.
This may help: http://shop1.mailordercentral.com/le...s.asp?dept=311
The Paul Chambers transcriptions are great. I recommend you talk with your teacher before diving in. Let your teacher recommend material for you to work on.
I encourage you to absorb as much music as you can. If you don't already have a collection of Jazz bassists material, go to your local library, iTunes or wherever and begin now. You will be amazed at the way the great bassists of the past will begin to creep into your playing if you study their playing.
Finally, utube.com is a great source. Just search for the bass player of choice and enjoy. Ray Brown has a masterclass on there from a few years ago. |
09-05-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheep I can read Bass cleff, I am good with site reading and ryhtyms. I know arpeggios, triads, modes, and all sorts of jass techniques (two feel, dominant approach etc). Any books that are good for history of jazz/classical as well as the instrument itself? | Pushups?
Yeah, I say do pushups.....ferget the reading thing, it'll just ruin yer eyes...............
Dude, if you mastered even half the sans instrument suggestions you've been given you'd be busy for the next two YEARS not just the next two months. Now step away from the computer and go learn to sing the melodies of yer favorite 10 Ornette Coleman tunes. |
09-05-2007, 06:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City area | |  I didn't know Ornette Coleman wrote any melodies. 
Point taken. Just listen to some music and don't sweat it. If you feel pressure to learn enough or get good enough you'll never get there. Just enjoy the ride and learn what you can. Have fun with it. |
09-05-2007, 09:55 PM
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Retailer: Shen, Sun, older European | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Burlingame, California | | | Youtube every bassist that you can think of
You'll be amazed and inspired at all the playing that you can watch on Youtube. |
09-06-2007, 06:37 AM
| | Destroyobot | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | I listen to music constantly, and I have sung in choirs enough to be able to sing, and read voice music.. lol
Alot of the techniques mentioned I have learned and applied to the electric bass, but the concepts are the same. |
09-06-2007, 09:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacksheep Hello,
I am looking forward to receiving my UB Hybrid, but it wont be here till the end of October. I am having a hard time dealing with this because I am so looking forward to playing. What would be a good way to occupy this time before I recieve the instrument? I have a teacher lined up already,so I guess that's one thing off the list... | Spend time with your loved ones. They will miss you after the bass arrives.
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09-06-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheep I listen to music constantly, and I have sung in choirs enough to be able to sing, and read voice music.. lol
Alot of the techniques mentioned I have learned and applied to the electric bass, but the concepts are the same. | So if you got all this **** together why'n the hell you even asking? So far you've shot down most of what people are throwing out....
We've ALL got a lot of work left to do and quite frankly the people I know who really do have a lot together never feel like they do....."the more I learn the more I realize I don't know" is a common theme with true over achievers. Maybe you're not intending to come off like a bit of a know-it-all but.............. 
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