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Old 02-15-2010, 09:32 AM
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Willy Köstler flatback

Hi,
I found a beautiful and good sounding German flatback fro around 1920, only i can't find anything about the builder Willy Köstler.
Anybody here can tell me more about him?
Ron
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:58 AM
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Hi,
I found a beautiful and good sounding German flatback fro around 1920, only i can't find anything about the builder Willy Köstler.
Anybody here can tell me more about him?
Ron
german flatbacks ftw!

Check with the CMB in Puurs :http://www.cmbpuurs.be/
They have lists of builders with some general info. You know Who to ask for I assume (if not, PM me, he's in France at the moment though)

do you have pictures?

ps: i assume you'll want that bow back now
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:10 AM
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Hey,

You're everywhere, huh. :-)))
Nope, i don't need the bow back. Just let me know what it's worth to you.
Thanks for the info, i'll check it right away.

What do you mean with German flatbacks ftw?

Ron
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:28 AM
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german flatbacks for the win

my german beauty is a flatback as well
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:33 AM
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Well, i planning to buy it a soon as i'm sure it's worth the euro's.
I'll try to ad dome pix

By the way...i have no idea who i can ask for info, on the net there's nothing
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:46 AM
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Well, i planning to buy it a soon as i'm sure it's worth the euro's.
I'll try to ad dome pix

By the way...i have no idea who i can ask for info, on the net there's nothing
do you have her at home?

if it's urgent, go see Gröger & Rammeloo, let them check her out...
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:42 AM
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I have part of a more extensive list of builders, but it only goes to Kl....

The complete list should be in the library of the CMB in Puurs...
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:57 AM
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Hi,
I found a beautiful and good sounding German flatback fro around 1920, only i can't find anything about the builder Willy Köstler.
Anybody here can tell me more about him?
Ron
i think you already know this:
http://mitglied.multimania.de/GemeindeNauheim/musik.htm

(nauheim is where some of the wilfers live)
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:30 AM
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It may be the lighting, but the edging looks a bit suspect on the treble side upper bout top. Got a closer shot of that?
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:42 AM
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i think you already know this:
http://mitglied.multimania.de/GemeindeNauheim/musik.htm

(nauheim is where some of the wilfers live)
REALLY long, but a great summary of how the music industry was rebuilt in Germany following WWII. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:08 AM
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So,

Last bit of info i got was that it might NOT be a German bass. Anybody has an idea? Vienna? I don't think so, looking at the scroll, English? Sure not.Italian? Not 'elegant' enough.....
Another mistery bass......?


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Old 02-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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Here some pretty complete info i got from K.S.

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I am at home and all my books are at the office. I did however look this guy up. At first I looked in my German/Austrian makers book and nothing was there on him. Then I went to the general 2 book set of all makers and there he was. A commercial factory of instruments and strings from Bohemia, not Germany by near the German border. I think it's mentioned that he was from Germany but the shop was in Czech territory near Schonbach.

This bass looks Germanic in its style and making as was typical of that period right next to Germany. Also, many basses then and now were made by Bass speciality shops and sold to others to be re-labeled. This is how basses were imported into the USA but I am sure the practice was not limited to just exports. Why make a bass or two if the other shop makes 100s and well sell them unlabeled if asked.

I wasn't there so I can't swear to this but it makes sense. The outer Rib Linings finish flush with the Top and Back. This is more typical of the Schonbach/Luby school than with the Germans makers. The Prague and Viennese makers of basses finished them flush as well but rarely with outside linings. That feature (the Linings) is German on these basses. I don't know if this bass is from the factory that it's labeled from or just labeled and sold by them. It doesn't matter. Call it by its label. It's close enough if not spot on.
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K.S. FTW!
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:59 AM
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He found what no-one else could find, answered me within the 15 minutes.

He's the man!

Ron
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:51 AM
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He found what no-one else could find, answered me within the 15 minutes.

He's the man!

Ron
And he surely is missed man.. about the bass, does it sound good? does it sound like a bass should sound in your head? can you afford it?
if so.. buy it....
regards man

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Old 02-17-2010, 10:00 AM
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It's still in Germany, i wanted all the info before i do the six hour drive.
Now trying to get the euros.....


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Old 02-17-2010, 11:41 AM
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If i buy it, i'll need some Velvet Garbo lights :-)

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nooooooo

evah evah evah!!!

+ aren't those velvet garbo's mighty expensive?

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Old 02-17-2010, 12:11 PM
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nooooooo

evah evah evah!!!

+ aren't those velvet garbo's mighty expensive?
evah is a girl's name... besides that Mr. Big Bullfiddler likes to slap the bass....
Off Topic, i'll be in Belgium for Easter in Turnhout playin', ill get you guys a De Koninck.. best beer in the world.
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