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09-01-2006, 06:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rockford, Illinois USA | | | Worth a bid? Hi, I thought I'd make my first post on this forum by asking some advice...
I've played double bass for twenty years or so in England, and when I relocated to the US my bass was *destroyed* by the shipping company. Under-insured, naturally...
So, I've been looking around for a relatively inexpensive replacement, and I saw this - http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kaye-Upr...QQcmdZViewItem
Obviously it needs quite a bit of work, but I've got a good luthier in town.
Looks to me like we're going to need a new fingerboard, an adjustable bridge, some reasonable strings, and to do some significant surgery to the neck and the bottom end.
So, accepting that we've got some spending to do to make the bass playable, how much would you folks be prepared to pay for this bass? Right now I'm hoping to get something solid and playable for a total investment of $1000 to $1500.
Thanks in advance
Tony
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09-01-2006, 09:03 AM
|  | 'Woodworker - Witch Doctor - Luthier' Owner/The Bass Spa, String Repairman/L & M Vancouver | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Crescent Beach, BC | | | Hi Tony.
The serial number makes it a 1966.
You might ask your luthier how much he wants to fix it first.
If you do buy it, I would be interested in buying the fingerboard.
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09-01-2006, 10:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rockford, Illinois USA | | Hi Jake
Thanks for your reply with the date info... "1040's Kaye" eh?
I've just got off the phone with my luthier, and obviously he's not going to commit to a price without handling the instrument. He did confirm that he'd probably have to take the top off the bass to make good those repairs to the lower bout, but so far the figures he's quoting are quite favorable to the limited budget.
Do you think that fingerboard is worth anything then? I just assumed it was as shot as the rest of the neck, and a new fingerboard was as essential as a new bridge.
Thanks,
Tony | 
09-01-2006, 12:01 PM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Tony F Hi, I thought I'd make my first post on this forum by asking some advice...
I've played double bass for twenty years or so in England, and when I relocated to the US my bass was *destroyed* by the shipping company. Under-insured, naturally...
So, I've been looking around for a relatively inexpensive replacement, and I saw this - http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kaye-Upr...QQcmdZViewItem
Obviously it needs quite a bit of work, but I've got a good luthier in town.
Looks to me like we're going to need a new fingerboard, an adjustable bridge, some reasonable strings, and to do some significant surgery to the neck and the bottom end.
So, accepting that we've got some spending to do to make the bass playable, how much would you folks be prepared to pay for this bass? Right now I'm hoping to get something solid and playable for a total investment of $1000 to $1500.
Thanks in advance
Tony |
Okay, suppose your total investment were $1500. For that, you'd have a repaired Kay which, in my opinion, would be an instrument substantially inferior to some new ply basses that you can buy for the same price or not very much more. | 
09-01-2006, 04:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston & Arizona, USA | | | You could grab an Englehardt that is a few years old and at least decently playable from day 1 for 600-800 and have plenty of money left over for a fingerboard, bridge, strings etc if you decide to do them. You will have a very similar bass - actually pretty much the same except for age and looks.
If I wanted an old Kay, I would think about starting with one in better shape. Also luthier bills have a way of growing. It always costs more than you expect.
I did spend a few bucks to repair my 1/4 Kay but the neck was and still is original and perfect and it was playable when I bought it so I knew a little of what I was getting.
Just my two cents.
Peace,
S | 
09-01-2006, 05:10 PM
| | Supporting Member/Luthier | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio | | | I wouldn't purchase a bass with a neck crack like that... unless it was under $400... | 
09-01-2006, 08:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston & Arizona, USA | | Actually if you are looking to pick up a decent bass cheap, I would have a look at these. http://bassesonline.com/eberlebass.html
Peace,
S | 
09-02-2006, 02:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Ridgewood, NJ | | | Buying this is not far from buying a soundpost and asking a luthier to make a bass to go around it.
Look elsewhere.
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09-06-2006, 06:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rockford, Illinois USA | | Thanks to all for their words and advice. I did consider putting a bid in while it was still at a very low price.... But I was surprised to see it sell at $530!
Someone, somewhere, has got a lot of work to do!
Cheers,
Tony | 
09-06-2006, 06:26 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Tony F Thanks to all for their words and advice. I did consider putting a bid in while it was still at a very low price.... But I was surprised to see it sell at $530!
Someone, somewhere, has got a lot of work to do!
Cheers,
Tony | Or rather - people will buy anything on eBay - they get sucked in by the mystique and thinking they must have got a bargain.... 
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09-06-2006, 08:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Ridgewood, NJ | | | Someone wasted $529.95
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09-08-2006, 09:20 AM
| | Registered User Private Inventor - Bass Capos | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cologne/Göttingen, Germany | | | As someone here recently mentioned, Kays are terribly overvalued. Personally, I wouldn't allow a bass like that into my home, repaired or otherwise, but I bet a dealer/luthier could turn a nice profit with this instrument.
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