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Old 10-27-2011, 09:47 AM
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we were under the impression it came with a buffer preamp and we would be able to plug in to the hartke he has.. is this not the case?
I may be wrong, but the Hartke probably has a low input impedance.
Plugging a piezo pickup in a low impedance gets weird results.

I see nothing about a preamp here: Dean Electric Guitars-Acoustic Guitars-Bass Guitars

You should use a preamp for this. (like a Fishman BII, K&K, etc.)
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This is the bass he has: Dean Pace Bass 4-String Electric Upright: Shop Bass & Other Musical Instruments | Musician's Friend
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Your link doesn't work, but if the maker's own website doesn't mention a preamp, then I guess there isn't.
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See, here's my situation.

I'm a guitarist, though I have in my time been both a bass guitarist and a double bass player. However, I play guitar as my main instrument in various jazz groups; but in recent times, have found a couple of those bands being short of a bassist of any variety - DB, BG, whatever. So I thought about getting an EUB to play 1) 'cos I like playing bass 2) to pitch in and make sure that these bands have a plan B.

Now I've tried a Stagg EUB a couple of times and got on OK-ish with it, but it means relearning a whole bunch of stuff about technique, posture, etc., that would be taking time away from my guitar playing. On the other hand, with the Dean I tried, the shorter scale meant that I could get to grips with almost straight away, so I shouldn't take long to get in the swing with that (no pun intended ). Granted, I needed to work hard to get a decent sound from it; but got there or thereabouts in the end.

I appreciate that DB is the sound, but I really don't have enough time to study to acquire the proper technique; nor do I have the storage space in my house for a DB, nor the inclination to revisit the days of carting all that lot around. It was just about OK when I was 19; I'm 53 now and really don't need the agg.

Now I know that the Jazz Police are never going to approve, but if I can double on the Pace and help out when needed and hopefully enjoy playing it too, without the distraction from my main instrument, then what's the problem, maaaaaan? Sorry not to have such a purist attitude, but......

Mind you, if any bass players want to play guitar on their cheap acoustic with a bolt-on pickup, don't be expecting too much tolerance from me......
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What about a fretless BG then?
Why the Dean? It can't even be bowed, AFAIK.

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To be honest with you, M. Blais, I didn't originally intend to look at the Dean - I went looking for a Palatino to try. But all that was there was the Pace. And I was (and still may be) contemplating committing myself to all the time and effort required to get an EUB up and running. I haven't bought anything yet, and may not do so for a while. It's just that this may seem like a better use of my time and effort and money, for the amount of time that I'm going to be playing the instrument.

Fretless BG - Yeh, I had one of those back in ’81, before going over to the Guitar Side. Used to alternate between that and DB with (in those archaic days) a Di Marzio Acoustic pickup stuck on the bridge. A few times, when we were pressed for space in the van and on the stage, for the numbers where I would normally switch to DB, it was left at home and I played the BG (a Shergold Marathon, if anyone remembers those!) on a stand in an upright position, using right hand DB technique. And it did sound different, to my and the band’s ears at least (“why don’t you play like that all the time?”)

So I have some history with all that. But, the look of something that is upright appeals to me in this context, and also to others who see that sort of thing. Yes it’s a compromise, but it may be good enough.

Now I’m not one of those who needs a particular form for a particular music – for instance, I have no sympathy with those who tell my fellow guitarists that they need to have a jazz guitar, when they turn up to a gig with a Telecaster. If my ears tell me something works sonically, and an instrument suits my eye, then I’m good.

I remember at one jazz gig being paid off at the interval because the pub owner was expecting “a proper jazz band, not keyboards and all that b******s”. Seriously. Our line-up was guitar, bass, drums, keys – but because we didn’t have horns, or play “Stranger on the Shore”, or a bunch of Trad stuff, we clearly weren’t a “proper jazz band”. Well, he got what he deserved – within a quarter of an hour, people had voted with their feet (and their beer money!) and the place was empty before we’d even packed up our gear. On a wet Monday night, instead of having 75 people in there until closing time, he had two men and a dog. Not a great move.

Of course, if I were a REAL traditionalist, I’d be playing a banjo, and the bassist would be a Tuba player. And then where would we be?
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Thanks for the input Steeve.
I'd buy a good fretless over a Dean anytime, FWIW.
Tell the people who don't think you can't play jazz with a Telecaster to listen to Ed Bickert...
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"Tell the people who don't think you can't play jazz with a Telecaster to listen to Ed Bickert..."


Exactly the man! Francois, your countryman is the perfect example of finding your own sound on whatever instrument you choose to play.

Which is what I hope to be able to do. Watch this space.
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Just got a used Pace in the mail, interesting bass. Unfortunately one of the tuners broke in the mail, apparently this is quite common. What are good replacement tuners that will fit this thing? Anybody have theirs replaced with something in particular?
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