Originally Posted by Alain Bass
Could you give us a little bit more about the comparaison with the Realistic, expecialy does the Upton support more the high level than the Realistic ?
The Upton is a hotter, more focused sound.
The Realist has a pronounced mid-range "bark" that I don't like and am constantly EQ'ing out.
The Realist's mid-range sound is just fine at lower volumes...maybe, just maybe, it helps the Eminence sound more like a true upright, or at least like a true upright with a pickup.
At high volumes (backline on last gig was an SWR stack, 4x10 + 1x15), on larger stages, or just louder ones, the Upton immediately sounded larger, more focused on the bottom end, and more even up the neck, especially in thumb position.
Granted, once you approach a certain amount of volume, the bass sound you're going to have to live with is more "electric" sounding, especially w/ the Eminence.
My theory is that w/ high volume situations, there's more acoustic energy than just the vibrations the strings/bridge stimulating the top of the bass. Since the Realist is between the foot and the bridge, it likes to pickup more sympathetic vibrations. This could also have something to do with the piezo electric film the Realist uses, but I could be totally off base (yawn) here. I always liked the sound of the Upton better than the Realist on my big bass, so I decided to give her a try on the EUB. When a large line-array rig w/ a pretty massive subwoofer set is employed, especially when the subs aren't flown (sitting on the ground, or worse, under the stage), the Realist is a nightmare.
I should mention that the Upton I'm using is one of the earlier models that is much thinner, so it fits in the smaller Eminence bridge.
I run any pickup through my "swiss army knife," my Fishman Pro Platinum Bass preamp. Upright or electric, I never leave home without it.
Recently I put my Wilfer bass in the shop and borrowed a rather ugly but incredible sounding German bass that has the Clevinger Natural Presence pickup on it. Sounds A LOT like my Upton, and, on this particular bass, maybe even better. Would be a great candidate for EUBs since it's so small. General thoughts:
I'm a firm believer in different pickups for different bass/players. It's always a compromise, and I'm not slamming Realist OR Endorsed by Upton or anything. Fishman now has my back, but I've had theirs for years, because that preamp is a major problem solver.
I'm really hoping to try blending a Krivo magnetic pickup in w/ a piezo at some point..Viktor Krauss style. I know it's counter intuitive, but I really like the sound of a magnetic pickup on the upright. If it's going to be loud, it's not gonna sound like a real upright anyway, so why not get as much headroom before feedback as you can, so you can be heard and dial in some big bottom end. It sucks to play a big beautiful upright only to realize they couldn't get enough low end out at Front Of House.
Hope some of this helps. -Dk