Just got an NS CR4M

ekohen · #1 09-01-2006, 12:50 PM

I just recieved an NS upright, wondering are guys who play these using the endpin or tripod. Mine came with the endpin and I can't seem to get comfortable. Lookin fron some advice!
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Steve Clark · #2 09-01-2006, 02:00 PM

I have the tripod. I'd like to try the endpin some day. The tripod is great but your are fixed in position which is less natural than the endpin I would think. Also when you started playing up the neck or digging in the whole set up tends to oscilate/wobble side to side which is also not a normal upright thing to do. That said it makes swithing between basses a snap on a gig where I am using fretted and EUB or more basses.

depalm · #3 09-01-2006, 06:59 PM

I ordered mine with tripod and I feel very comfortable with it. It's great cause I move from the eletric bass to the upright in seconds.
NS basses doesn't have those "shoulders" to lean on like traditional upright basses. So maybe that's the reason of your problem.

greitzer · #4 09-01-2006, 09:30 PM

Mine came with the tripod, and I subsequently bought the endpin. The tripod does indeed have some shake and wobble to it, as mentioned in a previous post, but it has that great advantage that you can just leave it and go pick up your EBG or DB or other instrument you're using, or just go on a break and leave it where it is on the tripod and it won't be in anyone's way.

The endpin doesn't work quite as well as I had hoped. Once you set it up, it's in a fixed position with the arm and cradle against your body, suich that you can't pull the instrument closer to you, or tilt it, the way you can with a DB. It's rigid and fixed, in that way it's a bit unnatural.

allthumbs · #5 09-04-2006, 10:12 AM

I too bought the end pin, as I found the tripod a bit rigid and inflexible and long periods of using it were giving me a bad back.

Although it's a little clumsy to adjust, the end pin is an improvement in that regard as it has a little more "give" and it's possible to arrive at a more comfortable playing position - there is a component that lets you attach it to the tripod stand, but this costs about £50 and having shelled out nearly £200 (yes, £200) for the end pin I'm unwilling to spend much more on it.

Still not sure whether it was worth the money...

bear · #6 09-05-2006, 08:24 PM

I dislike the endpin apparatus. My major beef with it is it's calipers, or jaws, (for lack of a better description), only open so far. As far as I can tell from pics it should rest against your waist. Well, given how far the jaws open, not my waist.
It is an overpriced, heavy thing, but trying to play without the support bracket up just doesn't work as the bass doesn't balance well. I don't like the tripod either, but I use the tripod, as I sit when I play. This makes arco on the E string difficult.
Compromise is neither side getting what they want. This applies to both devices.

ebe9 · #7 09-07-2006, 01:08 AM

I have seen these basses but have not had a chance to play them.

They do however have the option of a strap mechanism which fits round the body if I am correct?

Would an idea not be to maybe use the strap in conjunction with the end pin. that way you have the mobile anchor of the end pin but with the added stability of the strap holding the bass against you?

I am more than likely completely wrong but justa thought.

bassame · #8 09-07-2006, 08:15 AM

My CR4 came with the endpin, and I ordered the strap as well. I prefer the strap, because of weight and portability - it's lighter than the endpin and fits neatly in the side pocket. As for playing, I really feel no major difference - both take some getting used to, but they both work. Using both together would restrict your movement too much, even if you could get them to work together. The endpin has a brace which fits on your abdomen to keep the instrument away from you - the strap has its own bracing strap which would interfere with the other's brace.

greitzer · #9 09-09-2006, 03:37 PM

bassame -- when you use the strap, is the bass held pretty steady or does it flop around a lot?

bassame · #10 09-10-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by greitzer

bassame -- when you use the strap, is the bass held pretty steady or does it flop around a lot?

I too worried about stability, but it is quite steady, it cannot flop around at all.