This Vs. That - Page 2

akmusicfreak · #21 03-30-2009, 01:58 PM

I see a lot of bitchin' and moanin' about semantics.
So all of that aside.
I play DB, EUB, and BG.
I've played BG for 16 years, DB for 2+ years, and EUB for 1 year.

IMO if your looking for a DB sound you will need a DB.
If you want something that sounds similar to a DB but different go for an EUB.

Do not buy an EUB, or a DB from Musicians Friend they have horrible quality control issues, and don't know how to set up these instruments as well.

Dig through the threads here do some research, and put your hands on the instrument first before you buy it.

You should have some shops to check out, it can't be as hard to find down there, than it is for me in Alaska.

One last thing, I had a Palatino and it sucked, it's cheap chinese crap made by a faceless company. If you check out the Paly thread, there are over a 1000 posts and 90% of the posts are all about how to fix them.

zeytoun · #22 03-30-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

Well if you want to use 50 words when 5 would do, that's up to you - I think others have better things to do with their time!

Well, in this case, the shorter words were a waste of time.

The OP clearly is influenced by an EUB sound, and yet there are still people telling him he should go for a DB.

Your use of the world "real" wasn't economy of words, it was you projecting your inner values onto the OP. Maybe playing a "real" double bass run counter to his musical goals.

akmusicfreak · #23 03-30-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonH

I want a double bass, but don't like how ridicusly huge they are so I decided for a EUB, but I'm afraid that it won't sound "right" not like a traditional DB................. or sould I just get a regular DB?

Some of this confusion might be from the OP.

RBrownBass · #24 03-30-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeytoun

Well, in this case, the shorter words were a waste of time.

The OP clearly is influenced by an EUB sound, and yet there are still people telling him he should go for a DB.

Your use of the world "real" wasn't economy of words, it was you projecting your inner values onto the OP. Maybe playing a "real" double bass run counter to his musical goals.

+1

RBrownBass · #25 03-30-2009, 03:11 PM

In the interest of accuracy, the OP does seem to prefer the AUB tone. And if that's true, the AUB is what he should save to buy. The use of the term "real" to describe one type of instrument is the only faux pas here. It necessarily suggests that there is a less "real" instrument that he could opt for instead.

zeytoun · #26 03-30-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by akmusicfreak

Some of this confusion might be from the OP.

+1

Sounds to me like he likes the EUB tone, but has been told that DB is preferable, and so now he's not sure what he wants. While he mentions a DB tone, I'm not sure what he means by that. Tone in this context can be so subjective. He could be paying lip service to an idea, or have a tangible sound in mind. So far, the one reference to a tangible sound was to an EUB.

If the OP would supply a few more examples of the sound he is after (bassists, albums, etc), that might help...

akmusicfreak · #27 03-30-2009, 03:41 PM

ok, I'm going to play Devil's advocate here for Bruce.

If we were going to examine the word "real" , wouldn't it also be applicable to any instrument or thing.

real double bass
real electric upright bass
real bass guitar
real big fish

so a "real" double bass is exactly that.
just as a "real" electric upright bass is exactly that.

Now as far as needing to use the word real in front of any noun/object is probably not needed unless you are making the distinction between a prop, and or facsimile and the proper functioning object.

This post is completely of topic, next post I'll try and stay on target next time.

AndGabrielFell · #28 03-30-2009, 03:48 PM

I've been using a Zeta Crossover EUB for almost 5 years now. I've gotten so many looks from people thinking they were hearing a full size double bass & it's only 1/8 the size. The electronics are amazing. It can sound either like a full body or a J bass depending on the adjustments. Keep looking. You'll find something.

JtheJazzMan · #29 03-30-2009, 03:57 PM

this is why i think people need to learn how to describe tone. its all about sound right?

having a body doesnt automatically mean a certain tone, like i said i have a ply bass lying around that sounds just awful.

on the other hand the NS responds amazingly to left hand movement, you can influence the note while its sustaining. its clear and sweet. if an acoustic DB had those qualities everyone would be wetting themselves over it.

also i dont buy into the "no contest" when it comes to EUBs having an acoustic tone. my teacher, a professional of 40 years is also an EUB fan. if you closed your eyes while he was playing on a gig youd think it was an amazing acoustic double bass. only when hearing the instrument alone and up close can you tell the difference. and even then its a difference in tone - not a negative aspect

Marcus Johnson · #30 03-30-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JtheJazzMan

on the other hand the NS responds amazingly to left hand movement, you can influence the note while its sustaining. its clear and sweet. if an acoustic DB had those qualities everyone would be wetting themselves over it.

My double bass, which I play 99% of the time, has those qualities. I love that. But, I just checked, I'm totally dry.

My NS BassCello, in spite of its shorter scale and strap-on status, has a lot of the qualities of larger EUBs, in a size that fits in the overhead bins when I'm touring. I've owned full scale EUBs, now I prefer this.

Oranges and apples.

Peck_Time · #31 03-30-2009, 04:41 PM

I like this new back-formation AUB, but shouldn't it be PAUFLSB.

Passive Acoustic Upright Fretless Long Scale Bass!

**Francois Blais** · #32 03-30-2009, 06:49 PM

Hey guys.
Please keep this on-topic, and answer the OP question.
Otherwise, I'll just close the thread.

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
François
EUB forum co-mod

Marcus Johnson · #33 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM

post #3.

dakpluto · #34 03-30-2009, 08:56 PM

I just did a 4 week run of Kiss Me, Kate with my Ergo EUB and can't even begin to tell you how many people complimented me on the tone. Not to mention the great conversation maker it made.

Could my ear tell the difference between the Ergo and an acoustic? Sure
After mixed with the band and thru the house, could anyone else tell the difference? Nope

A lot of it comes from learning what strings work best with your EUB (I use the blended Obligato / Spiracore set from Upton) and learning to tweak the sound just right. For me the secret is my PreSonus TubePre with a touch of gain and a little bit of drive to bring the wood out, and my GK set very flat.

Best compliment I got was from one of the music directors I work with a lot that said to me "I didn't even realize you were using the electric. You were very present in the mix, but never once over powering or sticking out."

**Francois Blais** · #35 04-04-2009, 12:39 PM

Thread closed.
Discussion redirected here: Is an EUB the right choice for me?

Best regards,
François
EUB forum co-mod