i just picked this up even though i already have one just based on rarities sake alone. these were only made for a couple of years before they changed the body style and renamed it the retrospect and started making them in china or taiwan. well, theres some other stuff that i want to pick up and this one is much cleaner than the other. comes with active duncans installed. a set of these pickups goes for 170 by themselves so that makes this bass at 425 shipped via usps a deal. im just looking to break even on this one.