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Old 09-28-2011, 11:48 PM
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FS: 1972 GUILD JSII w/DARKSTARS AND "ALEMBICIZED" CUSTOM BRASS HARP BRIDGE

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I have for sale a '72 JSII with DarkStar DS-1 pickups and a custom solid-brass harp bridge (bridge was made by Mr. Marko Ursin).

Here are some details about the bass...

The Good:
- The bass has a fresh set of EXL-170S nickel rounds on it, a new bone nut, and has fast med-low action
- The custom bridge is an absolute work of art - solid-brass (plated baseplate), and mounts to a large 7mm thick brass block routed into the body. The new bridge allowed for proper intonation and ringing sustain. If you've ever played a stock JSII, this is not that bass.
- Original parts all in good functional shape - tuners, truss rod, electronics. I kept the original harness, pots, choke, suck-switch in there.
- Frets and fingerboard are in great shape
- Gorgeous piece of mahog for the body!

The Bad:
- There appears to be a small repaired (glued) hairline crack 3-4cm long running parallel along the center neck lamination under the nut (see pics). It's minor, and in the time I've had the bass it has remained perfectly stable. There are no signs that it extended into the truss rod cavity.
- Strap button was relocated to the neck, and original strap button on lower bout was pulled. The Guilds have this funky, conical end-pin type strap button that leaves a big hole when removed, and so that hole was doweled/filled, and dunlop straploks installed. Not sure this is a bad thing, but its non-original.

The Ugly:
- Bass has plenty of road rash, dings, etc... Definitely a player.
- The brass saddles on the bridge have some extra meat on them, and they are cut deep to get a proper setup. It's all done nicely and functions perfectly... not ugly per se, but my OCD tells me the saddles could be ground down to a more conventional height and polished out.
- The plastic TRC was cracked when I got it, and the mounting screw closest to the nut was missing. There was actually nothing for a replacement screw to mount to - as the truss rod bolt is right underneath it. That being the case, I simply nipped off a replacement screw's head and used a dab of epoxy on the underside of the TRC to hold it in place - just for cosmetics. The top screw hold the TRC securely in place.


At any rate, the pics will tell the story. This is a great playing and sounding bass, and I enjoyed it a great deal when I first bought and modified it. Other basses that make similar enough sounds eventually kinda took over, and this one just hasn't been getting the playtime it deserves.


Asking $1250 shipped/Paypal'ed in the CONUS. I have a non-original HSC to ship it in (not pretty, but it works and will help protect it).


Pricing this is difficult since its kind of unique, and it might be a case of the parts being worth more than the whole - unless it finds the right buyer. Yes, you could probably get a stock JSII for less, but the pickups and bridge take this bass to a completely different level - and you'd spend more than this trying to replicate that. I thought I might give it a shot here and see if there is any interest.

Not interested in trades at this time, as I'm selling to help pay for an old Ric I just picked up. I'll give it a couple days here, and then I'll probably drop other pickups into it and auction the bass and DS-1s separately. Hate to part out such a nice bass, but really need to recoup my investment in it.

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Old 09-29-2011, 12:46 AM
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Thanks for sharing with the photos! Looks to be a very gorgeous and unique axe.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:27 AM
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Wow! Beautiful bass! If you decide to part it out, I'd like first dibs on pickups. GLWYS.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:32 AM
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Holy crap. Synchronicity much? Hmm. Questions: scale length? I know these also come in 34".. Not sure if that's ash or mahogany..
Thanks for posting such a killer beauty.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:10 AM
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Just another little note for those browsing: you list as a "bad" point the strap button at the neck heel. That's actually the stock position. Having the strap button on the upper horn would be weird, so I guess the "bad" point is the hole left by whoever relocated the button to its original position, which in my opinion, is actually one of the benefits of this particular style of bass.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:15 AM
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Ok, what the heck. Since I'm going to spending so much time looking at this gorgeous thing, what other "similar enough" sounding basses have you been getting into? I'm just curious what cops enough of that much-vaunted Darkstar/mahogany/set-neck tone to let you pass this beauty on..
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:52 AM
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I remember contacting you a couple of years ago about this bass, wish I still had the cash to drop on it.
Good luck!
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:12 AM
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@Luckie- I remember that, and thanks.

@dlenaghan- This one is short 30.5" scale, and all mahogany neck and body. I got an Alembic and a nice Gibson Triumph about a year after building this bass, and both exhibit the wide freq response and dynamics that this Guild offers with the bridge and Darkstars. I'd love to keep them all, but have to be practical.

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Old 09-29-2011, 09:42 AM
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Thank God it is short scale because this is the hottest bass I've seen in a while! Not that I have the cash, but now I don't have to pine for it... good luck!
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:34 AM
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Really nice. Marko made a brass Alembic-inspired (similar in design to the bridges Alembic puts on their basses), along with the 8oz brass bridge mount set into the bass. It's on a Guild M-85 I refinned with a pair of Dark Stars. All that brass makes a huge difference in the sound - even just putting the brass saddles on a harp bridge sound better than the rosewood saddles on the originals. Very nice bass. Somebody would do themselves a real favor to take it off your hands. This is a phenomenal platform for the Dark Stars. Good luck.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:22 PM
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Who is this Marko, and can he be contacted? I wonder if he could work up a replacement bridge for my JS-II..
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:37 AM
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Really nice. Marko made a brass Alembic-inspired (similar in design to the bridges Alembic puts on their basses), along with the 8oz brass bridge mount set into the bass. It's on a Guild M-85 I refinned with a pair of Dark Stars. All that brass makes a huge difference in the sound - even just putting the brass saddles on a harp bridge sound better than the rosewood saddles on the originals. Very nice bass. Somebody would do themselves a real favor to take it off your hands. This is a phenomenal platform for the Dark Stars. Good luck.
That M-85 sounds beautiful! I had another bridge of his too- 2pc brass, Alembic-esque, eagle-style tailpiece, sustain block. Originally had plans to use that on a Starfire build, but moved onto other stuff and eventually set it free.


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Who is this Marko, and can he be contacted? I wonder if he could work up a replacement bridge for my JS-II..
I bought the bridges from him on a different forum years ago. Think he might be around here as "MPU", but I think he builds more for enjoyment than for business (or at least did at that time). Really nice guy and remarkable work, though - so never hurts to ask!
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:48 AM
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If you like a slim neck, you will love this bass. And between the Darkstars and the "brass-mass" bridge, it should be a killer bass.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:04 PM
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Gosh, I don't know, there's a JS-II from '73 with the Guild 'buckers for a 1500US "buy it now" on eBay.. I wonder which one is the better deal ;-)
I know how people find their "personal basses" from time to time and all I know is, I sold all my other basses when I got my JS-II with the Hagstroms.. sounds like a freaking banjo in the upper register, woody and clear, nice full range chime and grit from the Bisonic, slightly drier tone with great overdrive from the bridge Hagstrom humbucker. The design overall I think is nearly flawless: the only thing I would ever change about these basses is I'd give them a full 24 fret fingerboard. Besides that, the asymmetrical double cutaway let you get way up high and the neck profile is beyond perfect. At least for me. Which is why I've been hanging around this thread for the past 24 hours.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:56 AM
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Old 10-02-2011, 02:36 AM
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Gosh, I don't know, there's a JS-II from '73 with the Guild 'buckers for a 1500US "buy it now" on eBay.. I wonder which one is the better deal ;-)
I know how people find their "personal basses" from time to time and all I know is, I sold all my other basses when I got my JS-II with the Hagstroms.. sounds like a freaking banjo in the upper register, woody and clear, nice full range chime and grit from the Bisonic, slightly drier tone with great overdrive from the bridge Hagstrom humbucker. The design overall I think is nearly flawless: the only thing I would ever change about these basses is I'd give them a full 24 fret fingerboard. Besides that, the asymmetrical double cutaway let you get way up high and the neck profile is beyond perfect. At least for me. Which is why I've been hanging around this thread for the past 24 hours.
That JSII on Ebay is kinda neat - that's the long scale version of this bass. Looks like it has a Badass bridge, and the bridge pickup looks like an aftermarket Schaller bassbucker or Model G. That'd be a good match for the Guild humbucker - gutsy pickups.

I do enjoy long scales, but still have much love for the short and middleys! Too much love, actually. That's why I'm hanging around this thread!

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Old 10-02-2011, 02:41 AM
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Is that a modded EB-2? I hadn't realized Gibson made a hollowbody with two pickups.. Yeah, the long-scales have their place, it's just not with me any more. Though it would be interesting to compare an ash/maple JS against its shorter mahogany bretheren. What I can comfortably pull off on bass has increased with the shorter scale..

For now though, the Guild will see me through. Much appreciated.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:28 AM
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Wait.. something'smissing from this thread...

Ah! I know:

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