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Old 08-16-2011, 09:08 PM
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Michael Tobias built (Early Gibson) Tobias Classic 5

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Just had this drop in my lap. This will probably go to the Bay, but let's try this first:

What we have here is a early Tobias Classic 5 string.
This bass was made when Gibson had just acquired Tobias,
but was built by Michael Tobias and his original crew while they were still in California, before the move to Nashville and his departure from Gibson.
This bass is all original Tobias. You can check the Tobias history on-line here:
MTD History
and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_...guitar_company)
The serial number (see pix) is 1459.

I got this in a multi equipment acquisition and thought I would give a Tobias a try and not realizing how old and sought after these are. I've been a Spector guy for over 20 years so the Wife say's the extra basses have to go.

From what I've researched everything is original.
What is absolutely amazing is the almost total lack of player wear for a bass of this vintage. No thumb resting spots. No pick scratches. No slap scratches. No major or even minor nicks or dings. No bass of this age goes unscathed, however, so if you look real hard you might see the "occasional" micro nick. Doesn't even look like the headstock ever made contact with anything (I mean.....who doesn't bang their headstock into something in 20+ years of playing?!?). I can't stess enough how unbelievably clean this thing is for a 20+ year old instrument.

I do pro setups and everything is tip-top here. Truss works as it should. Frets are all nice and even with almost no wear. I cleaned all the pots as the treble +/- was a little scratchy. It's all whisper quiet now. When setting the intonation I noticed the bridge has "Tobias" stamped in it, but is hard to see as the saddles are sitting on top of it. This bass does not have a single issue other than the battery clip is missing as the previous owner put a little duct tape around the battery (see pix). I have new extras and will send a replacement clip with the bass.
The back cavity cover is actually a darker grained wood. It just looks like black plastic in the pix.

I can't stress enough how clean this bass is.
Any perceived scratches, scuffs or discoloration from wear is due to my lack of digital photograghy skills.

On a personal, professional player's note: This bass plays like butter and sounds fantastic. Every bit as good as my top-of-the-line Spectors. The neck has a fairly thin (front to back) profile. String spacing at the bridge is 17mm. Controls are Vol / Blend / Treble boost-cut / Mid boost-cut / Bass boost-cut / Active-Passive switch. Blend, Treble, Mid and Bass all have center detents. Pickups appear to be the original Barts and are radiused. Low action (almost too low) with vitually no fret buzz. The gloss finish is virtually flawless everywhere on this bass.

I've been told the going rate on an average example of this bass is in the $3K range. There's a "well played" example on eBay right now with a $4k B.I.N. + shipping.
I'm going to to set the price of this near mint example at $3200 firm shipped in the continental US. It will ship in a non-original (well used) hard case, "packed for war", insured ground. No trades as the Wife will have my "you know whats" if I keep any more gear. If you are outside the US and/or want it shipped faster, I will give you $50 credit towards the actual shipping costs. The rest will be on you.
PayPal gladly accepted.

My feedback here and eBay (user PhatBasstard/160+ auctions) is 100% positive.

EDIT:
To the best of my knowledge and with some help from other Tobias owners,
the woods are:
Body Top: Figured/Flamed Maple.
Second Layer: Wenge.
Body Back: Walnut.
Outer Neck Strips: Maple.
Inner Neck Strips: Bubinga.
Thin Inner Strips between body wings and neck plank: Ebony?
Finger Board: Pau Ferro.
Body Cavity Cover: Ebony?


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always wanted one of these! gorgeous! just gotta get rid of the spector first good luck, dude! this should not be around for very long...
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:34 PM
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always wanted one of these! gorgeous! just gotta get rid of the spector first good luck, dude! this should not be around for very long...
Uh.....what Spector.....
(No! Stop it! [smack, smack] No trades, remember!? Wife, death....you know!?
"But....but....it's a SPECTOR?!?!"............[SMACK])
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:23 PM
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I'm getting questions about the wood combinations.
I am neither a Tobias nor wood expert.

If anybody knows from looking or first hand Tobias experience, please chime in.
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I would say the lighter wood is Lacewood and the darker stripe is bubinga. The neck looks like pau fero rosewood, but I'm not sure.

I have a Tobias that was made just six after this one! Beautiful! Good luck with the sale.
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That's Flame maple top on Wenge tone plate over the Walnut back.
With the maple neck with bubinga stringers.
Pau ferro fingerboard.

You can expect for the superb big ooomph bottom with sweet crispy open treble from this gorgeous.
Pay for it, you won't regret it.

Good luck with the sale.
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:01 PM
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I would say the lighter wood is Lacewood and the darker stripe is bubinga. The neck looks like pau fero rosewood, but I'm not sure.

I have a Tobias that was made just six after this one! Beautiful! Good luck with the sale.
This what I'm "guessing" from comparisons with my other basses.

Body top: Figured/Flamed Maple.
Second layer: Wenge (this "probable for this model" was tipped from another Tobias owner and Naxalez below).
Body back: Walnut.
Inner neck strips: Bubinga (per Naxalez).
Outer neck strips: Maple.
Very dark, thin stringers between neck plank and body wings: Ebony?
Fingerboard: Pau ferro (Naxalez again, thanks).
Body cavity cover: Ebony?
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:05 PM
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That's Flame maple top on Wenge tone plate over the Walnut back.
With the maple neck with bubinga stringers.
Pau ferro fingerboard.

You can expect for the superb big ooomph bottom with sweet crispy open treble from this gorgeous.
Pay for it, you won't regret it.

Good luck with the sale.
Thanks.
I'll change the upper post to reflect this.
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:42 PM
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I'm getting questions about the wood combinations.
I am neither a Tobias nor wood expert.

If anybody knows from looking or first hand Tobias experience, please chime in.
I have #1602, a Zebra/Alder 4 string Classic, that I will never, ever, ever sell. Here's what I recall:

Fingerboard: Pau Ferro
Second Layer: Wenge
Inner neck strips: Wenge
Outer neck strips: Maple.
Very dark, thin stringers between neck plank and body wings: Ebony (pretty sure, but not 100% postitive)
Body cavity cover: Wenge

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:41 AM
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I have #1602, a Zebra/Alder 4 string Classic, that I will never, ever, ever sell. Here's what I recall:

Fingerboard: Pau Ferro
Second Layer: Wenge
Inner neck strips: Wenge
Outer neck strips: Maple.
Very dark, thin stringers between neck plank and body wings: Ebony (pretty sure, but not 100% postitive)
Body cavity cover: Wenge

Hope this helps.
-Alan
I think there are a couple issues here (at least for this bass).

For the neck strips and the second layer to both be Wenge, I don't think the second layer would be sooooo much darker than the inner strips. I thought they (inner strips) looked like the same wood as the Walnut back, but the photograghs brought out the color difference that makes me believe they are probably Bubinga like Naxalez said.
Same goes for the inner strips and the cover being the same wood. The cover is a lot darker, even than the Wenge.

I do appreciate all the input though.
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Michael Tobias offers many neck combos on his tobias basses.

Maple/Purpleheart
Maple/Wenge
Maple/Bubinga
Walnut/Purpleheart

This one is precisely a Maple/bubinga neck combo.
As we can see the neck stringers are lighter in colour than the wenge tone plate in the body.

Btw, this one sold.
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:08 AM
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Looks like my price was too low.

Multiple buyers, but Naxalez won the race.
This beauty is headed to Florida.
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