1960's fender tort gaurd-Original

A-Step-Towards · #1 01-18-2013, 05:02 PM

No cracks, no breaks, no previous repairs. No warps or anything else unsightly on this vintage fender gaurd. I was told it was a 1965 but cant confirm that except the fact that it fits on and came attached to a '65 gaurd and looks 100% correct for the period.The only thing detracting from it is it appears a extra hole was added at the top of it for a thumbrest maybe? please see pics for photo of that, there should only be 3 along the top but there are 4, the added hole was well drilled.. Original shield included. There is one of these listed on ebay for $645. I will be a little more realistic, but these are very rare to find. In fact I have searched old for sale threads and never have seen a 60's tort gaurd for sale on tb, if you have a bass with a incorrect gaurd I would be on this

$325 shipped CONUS.

denton57 · #2 01-18-2013, 09:05 PM

Looks very similar to a Fullerton RI guard?? I haven't owned anything older than a 71 guard, so I'm no expert. Any shrinkage?

FranF · #3 01-18-2013, 11:52 PM

It's a Fullerton 'Pepperoni Guard' actually. Circa '83....

Low Class · #4 01-18-2013, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FranF

It's a Fullerton 'Pepperoni Guard' actually. Circa '83....

That's what it appears to be to me also.

A-Step-Towards · #5 01-19-2013, 03:42 AM

hmmm. I was going off what was provided to me from the previous owner who apparently got it from the original owner and the fact it was also on a '65 Body.

I have never owned a 60's fender tort gaurd so I am guessing you guys are correct. As you can see by my feedback I am not here to try and rip anyone off, just apparently needing to do more HW.

here is a pic of it in different lighting.

So fullerton right?

I am dropping the price to $125 and opening a new thread

denton57 · #6 01-19-2013, 04:49 AM

Low Class · #7 01-19-2013, 05:03 AM

After looking at some pics of Fullerton reissues, I take back my post. This may be real!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Fender-...771#vi-content

http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-pre...-1965-tortoise

Although this looks a lot like a 83 Fullerton, the yellow in it is creamier, where the reissue is brighter yellow. Also it's a brighter red in the reissue. Put this pic of a 83 up next to the OP's and you can see the difference.

denton57 · #8 01-19-2013, 05:17 AM

Looks pepperoni to me, which is what I have been looking for! I sold one last year, and am very familiar with the look.

The mid 60's ones are darker and more lush..theres one on Ebay...and almost always have shrinkage. I just sold a 71 guard that had shrunk pretty significantly and was kinda wavy.

Low Class · #9 01-19-2013, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by denton57

Looks pepperoni to me, which is what I have been looking for! I sold one last year, and am very familiar with the look.

The mid 60's ones are darker and more lush..theres one on Ebay...and almost always have shrinkage. I just sold a 71 guard that had shrunk pretty significantly and was kinda wavy.

65 is when they switched to ABS that didn't have the shrinkage problems.

denton57 · #10 01-19-2013, 05:46 AM

ABS?

The 65-66 guard on eBay is much darker. Anyway, I'll look on gbase for some more examples.

Maybe others can chime in when they wake up

denton57 · #11 01-19-2013, 06:21 AM

Actually, I have a Fullerton tort jazz guard here. I'll post pics of it for comparison purposes.

denton57 · #12 01-19-2013, 07:52 AM

Here is a Fullerton jazz guard that i purchased off ebay last year for a project J someday.. Project hasn't happened yet unfortunately, and may never happen. Anyway.. this one has actually begun to get wavy...it supposedly was part of a batch of extras that a music store had been sitting on. It is actually a little redder than appears in picture. Since it hasnt ever been on a bass, it hasnt had a chance to "age" or get dirty and fade out any.

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Low Class · #13 01-19-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by denton57

Here is a Fullerton jazz guard that i purchased off ebay last year for a project J someday.. Project hasn't happened yet unfortunately, and may never happen. Anyway.. this one has actually begun to get wavy...it supposedly was part of a batch of extras that a music store had been sitting on. It is actually a little redder than appears in picture. Since it hasnt ever been on a bass, it hasnt had a chance to "age" or get dirty and fade out any.

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This is a pic of the Fullerton P pepperoni guard I had. Picture was taken outside in the early morning glow. Never should have sold/parted out this bass

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The difference in color between your Fullerton and the one FS is obvious. His is the real deal.

FranF · #14 01-19-2013, 08:30 AM

My '83 Fullerton w/ pepperoni guard.

D Bopp · #15 01-19-2013, 08:34 AM

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My '83 Fullerton w/ pepperoni guard.

Nice bass Fran!

Low Class · #16 01-19-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FranF

My '83 Fullerton w/ pepperoni guard.

Put this up next to the one for sale and again you can see the difference in the reds and yellows.

FranF · #17 01-19-2013, 08:42 AM

Thanks Dan'l! ;-) Original 60's guard will have a wider edge bevel, mintier in color, and a thicker top ply of tort. Of course there's color differences at play here, but I'm looking at construction details too. Still betting the farm on this guard being a Fullerton.

FranF · #18 01-19-2013, 08:43 AM

And none of this is a knock on ol' A-Step here! We've done business and he's a great guy!!!

denton57 · #19 01-19-2013, 09:04 AM

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My '83 Fullerton w/ pepperoni guard.

Thats the look I'm going for...except i have a 2012 body and a 1970 neck lol. I like the pep guards with the sunburst.

denton57 · #20 01-19-2013, 09:16 AM

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The difference in color between your Fullerton and the one FS is obvious. His is the real deal.

Which of my Fullerton's? Both of mine had a different shade...the Jazz is basically unused NOS, and the P was well used and lighter/more faded. The enviroments of the pics come into play as well. My P was taken outside about 7:30 in the morning, early May, Arkansas, facing due north, perfect weather, etc

Not arguing, but i immediately thought Fullerton when i saw the pics of the OP's pickguard. I could be wrong. I am a buyer (already PM's) for the "Fullerton" one..if OP decides it is a real 60's one, no big deal. I'll keep searching for a pep Fullerton one.

Not sure if there is any connection, but the OP DOES have an '84 Fullerton RI neck up for sale too. Maybe a coincidence??