G&L body sizes

[68Goldfish]

Hey guys. I'm just what the simularities are between the differant body's. I imagin that there's no differance between an sb-1 and an sb-2 so I mean between an sb-2 and an L-2000. I figure that the five strings are bigger so I'm really only talking about the four string versions. I'm wondering if the sb-2 is like the sterling where the L-2000 is like a stringray, size wise.

[Ken Baker]

Comparatively speaking, kinda-sorta. Sterling & SB-2, StingRay & L-2000.

It's been a while since I've laid hands on a either a Sterling or a 'Ray, but I recall the Sterling having a body size not unlike that of the SB-2. Both are slim-waisted and light feeling compared to their stable mates. OTOH, the StingRay feels to me to be bigger and more heavy feeling than the L-2000, though the weights are similar. The SR5 body is bigger than its 4 string sibling, but is sculpted a bit. The L-2000 and L-2500 share essentially the same body.

Ken...

[rok51]

I was of the impression that the L2000 was a larger body than the SB-2. At least on my two Tributes, it is not. Both bodies are exactly the same size. But the L2000 still looks bigger...go figure!

Kim

[ljazz]

I think the SB2 is slimmer at the waist by a little bit.

[Madcity Fats]

Yes, the SB-1 and SB-2 waist is a bit slimmer. Also the upper and lower contours are more or less aligned (like an hourglass), whereas on the other models they're slightly offset. If you look carefully at the pics on the G&L site, you can see what I mean, although it's very subtle.

[68Goldfish]

Hmm, OK. I'lll check it out. Thanks guys. I wouldn't mind trying a L2000 out someday I just like the size, shape and feel of the sb-2.

[quickervicar]

My L2k is basically a P-body. We'll call him Adam. My SB-2 is significantly different. More voluptuous. We'll call her Eve. The ASAT is basically a slab of ash with a neck bolted to it. We'll call it Wonderful.

[epoxo57]

Originally Posted by 68Goldfish

Hmm, OK. I'lll check it out. Thanks guys. I wouldn't mind trying a L2000 out someday I just like the size, shape and feel of the sb-2.

I feel the same about my SB-2. I had an L2K and it did have the bigger body and more P-bass like feel. My SB-2 is only 8lbs and is a joy to play longer sets. I have a Sterling and agree with the others about its body size comparison to the SB-2.

[sunbeast]

Originally Posted by quickervicar

My L2k is basically a P-body. We'll call him Adam. My SB-2 is significantly different. More voluptuous. We'll call her Eve. The ASAT is basically a slab of ash with a neck bolted to it. We'll call it Wonderful.

I like this...except for the ASAT aspect, but those are love or hate...

[rok51]

Originally Posted by Madcity Fats

Yes, the SB-1 and SB-2 waist is a bit slimmer. Also the upper and lower contours are more or less aligned (like an hourglass), whereas on the other models they're slightly offset. If you look carefully at the pics on the G&L site, you can see what I mean, although it's very subtle.

Again, and I can only relate to recent model Tributes...I actually laid the L2000 on top of the SB-2...they matched-all the way round...perfectly.



Perhaps mine are a fluke??? I still love them!

Kim

[ljazz]

Originally Posted by Madcity Fats

Yes, the SB-1 and SB-2 waist is a bit slimmer. Also the upper and lower contours are more or less aligned (like an hourglass), whereas on the other models they're slightly offset. If you look carefully at the pics on the G&L site, you can see what I mean, although it's very subtle.

Maybe the real late versions of the SB1. My '87 is wide. I've played an early '90's version.... '92 perhaps, and it was wide as well.

Ljazz

[Madcity Fats]

Originally Posted by ljazz

Maybe the real late versions of the SB1. My '87 is wide. I've played an early '90's version.... '92 perhaps, and it was wide as well.

Hmmm ... well that's a puzzlement. My '86 SB-1 is narrower at the waist than my '81 L1K, and identical to both my SB-2s (one of which is a mid-nineties model and the other just a couple of years old).

That's G&L for you, I guess. Always an oddity around every corner.

[Nedmundo]

As I understand things, only the L-1500 is downsized relative to the SB-2 and L-2000. It isn't a huge difference -- not enough to influence a choice IMO -- but makes it feel slightly more "agile" on stage than my SB-2 and Fenders.

[68Goldfish]

Originally Posted by Nedmundo

not enough to influence a choice IMO.

Even with the slight confusion I'd say this sounds true, which is what my original post really was about. Now my next question....is the SB-2 sound inside the L2000 or is it peculiar to the split coil??

[ljazz]

Confirmed.... my SB2 ('02) is definitely smaller at the waist than my '87 SB1 and my '02 L2K. Infact, the SB1 and SB2 appear to match. Everything else along the outside appears to be the same though... just the waist is different. I'm not sure what current L2K's are like, but I'd imagine they downsized it to match the SB2? Kim's photo would seem to support that (unless the Tribute bodies are different).

Wasn't that one of the differences with the BABP L1K's?.... Slimmer at the waist, like the SB2?..... I know I read that somewhere.

Ljazz

[Madcity Fats]

Originally Posted by ljazz

Wasn't that one of the differences with the BABP L1K's?.... Slimmer at the waist, like the SB2?..... I know I read that somewhere.

I believe the newer L2Ks and, by extension, the BABP 1Ks are the same size and shape as the old ones but are thinner front to back to spare some weight. I may be wrong about that though.

I wish I could pick up the BABP and tell you for sure, but I'm still gassing for it.

[Ken Baker]

Originally Posted by Madcity Fats

I believe the newer L2Ks and, by extension, the BABP 1Ks are the same size and shape as the old ones but are thinner front to back to spare some weight. I may be wrong about that though.

You are correct. Body thickness was reduced about the time that the first run of BABP L-2000s hit the street.

Ken...

[rok51]

I will try my bass-on-bass again and pay more attention to the waist. Even looking at my photo, it seems as if the SB-2's lower bout curves in more towards the waist than does the L2000. I paid more attention to the overall body slab and the outsides did line up perfectly...now I have doubts about the waists. I'll report back, lol!

Kim

[Nedmundo]

Originally Posted by 68Goldfish

Even with the slight confusion I'd say this sounds true, which is what my original post really was about. Now my next question....is the SB-2 sound inside the L2000 or is it peculiar to the split coil??

The SB-2's sound is peculiar to the split-coil, which seems even hotter than the MFD humbucker in my L-1500. And of course the bridge single coil comes into play for more tones specific to the SB-2.

The L-2000 on its neck pickup, in series, can get close to a heavy P-bass/SB-2 sound, as I've experienced briefly and read many times from the G&L faithful. (Heck, even my L-1500 has a little bit of P-bass vibe.) But it does not duplicate a split-coil tone.

[Ken Baker]

Originally Posted by Nedmundo

The SB-2's sound is peculiar to the split-coil, which seems even hotter than the MFD humbucker in my L-1500. And of course the bridge single coil comes into play for more tones specific to the SB-2.

The L-2000 on its neck pickup, in series, can get close to a heavy P-bass/SB-2 sound, as I've experienced briefly and read many times from the G&L faithful. (Heck, even my L-1500 has a little bit of P-bass vibe.) But it does not duplicate a split-coil tone.

Abso-freakin'-lutely!

Ain't nothing like the SB-2. Well, some chainsaws get close, but close only counts in curling eh?

Ken...