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Old 10-09-2008, 09:06 AM
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Hi guys, i just got a g&l SB2 used, i dont know if some of you saw it, it was the baby blue matching headstock one on ebay...
Well, im happy to say it survived the trip to england but i have a problem with the back pickup!
I know its ment to have less output than the P pickup etc, but how low is it supposed to be volume wise compared to the P? even with the J soloed i can barely hear it, is that normal, and if its not what can i do?
( i did raise it, its almost touching the strings, and all the wiring seems normal to me)

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Old 10-09-2008, 10:18 AM
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The J pickup does not have the output of the split coil, but you certainly should be able to hear it loud and clear when it's soloed.

Beyond that, I'm probably not the best person to offer a diagnosis, but my best guess would be it's a problem with the pickup itself.

Good luck. I saw that one on the 'bay and it's a beautiful bass.
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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hi nice bass, i would have the pickup output checked to see that the pickup is functional, if it is then i would check to see if it might be a bad solder joint, or maybe even the voulume pot itself, good luck.
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The bridge pickup has notably less output than the split pickup, but it's definitely not quiet.

Check the wiring against this. Click the image for a high res PDF.



Be sure to wiggle all the wires that connect the bridge pickup to make sure they and their solder joints are in good shape.

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Old 10-09-2008, 05:48 PM
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Thank you guys, just checked the wires and soldering and everything seems fine!
How can i check that the pickup is working? I can hear something like 10% of the P pickup from the J, whats the best way to figure out if its the pickup or the pot?

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Thank you guys, just checked the wires and soldering and everything seems fine!
How can i check that the pickup is working? I can hear something like 10% of the P pickup from the J, whats the best way to figure out if its the pickup or the pot?

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I don't know what the DC resistance is of the pickup, so maybe someone else can help with that.

If you're handy with a soldering iron and an ohmmeter:

1. Take the bridge pickup's pot completely out of circuit by disconnecting all leads to it and its metal cover.

2. Measure its resistance (ohms) across the two outer soldering lugs. It should be 250,000 ohms, +/- 20% (or so).

3. Then measure the pot's resistance from one of the outer lugs to the center lug, sweeping the control back & forth. You should see a relatively smooth swing from zero ohms to 250K ohms.

4. Repeat step 3, only between the center lug and the other outer lug. The result should be the same.

5. Check for resistance between each lug and the metal body of the pot. There should be infinite resistance, meaning that there should be no connection at all with the pot out of circuit.

6. Disconnect the existing leads at the jack and connect the bridge pickup directly to it. If the pickup is healthy, you should be able to get a respectable volume from your amp.

7. If someone can come up with the pickup's DC resistance (out of circuit), measure yours across the leads. The values should be within a couple hundred ohms of each other. Note that this can be kind of tricky and a moving target due to differing ages of the pickups that were measured, so don't worry about a relatively small difference. HYPOTHETICAL OTOH, if I were to measure my SB-2's pickup and it were to read 8.3k ohms and yours read 6k ohms, then you would probably have a damaged pickup.

Ken...

Last edited by Ken Baker : 10-09-2008 at 06:41 PM. Reason: Because I'm tired and can't type even when rested!
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:11 PM
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Hi again, well i checked my wiring and it looks nothing like the diagram you sent before! Any thoughts on that? Im pretty sure it wasnt changed from factory because the protection plastic on the pickguard was still stuck under the screws and it looked well soldered but it is really different...
Also i checked the pickup on the jack and it was still quiet, so i guess its dead!
Anyway i just got one on ebay that i will be putting on there soon, any idea if i should rewire like your diagram or put it back as it was?

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That diagram is based on a 1993 Fullerton SB-2. Any differences would likely be in where ground points are located. Out of the factory, they'd solder ground leads to either/both of the pot cans in addition to the ground connection of the jack. The hot lead locations should be accurate.

As to how you wire in the replacement pickup; my recommendation would be for you to use the same wiring scheme in your bass as it exists now.

Ken...

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