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12-31-2008, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GGJaguar  Okay, I've been working on the book manuscript all week and came across my notes of bodies marked CL and CLF. According to a former woodshop worker there, these two markings denote a "clear finish". Now, if you see these on a body without a clear finish don't blame me... 
GG | Mine is solid-black... and guess what? it's CL-ed... 
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01-01-2009, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GGJaguar Okay, I've been working on the book manuscript all week and came across my notes of bodies marked CL and CLF. According to a former woodshop worker there, these two markings denote a "clear finish". Now, if you see these on a body without a clear finish don't blame me...
GG | I did a setup on a 1980 L1000 that had CLF in the neck pocket - sunburst. |
01-01-2009, 10:22 PM
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flash, you have one of the new ones left f/s, don't you?
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01-02-2009, 10:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle | | | This thread makes me wonder how many of the L1000's were made, how many have survived and if most of them are currently owned people who know how cool they are.
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01-02-2009, 10:18 AM
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Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | prs: it was your lK I was referring to. Y'all can see the link at the bottom of his post.
I currently have three, and I think I know how cool they are 
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01-02-2009, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by prsbass This thread makes me wonder how many of the L1000's were made, how many have survived and if most of them are currently owned people who know how cool they are. | Some of the owners think they're way cooler than they actually are.
The owners, not the basses. LOL  |
01-02-2009, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chef prs: it was your lK I was referring to. Y'all can see the link at the bottom of his post.
I currently have three, and I think I know how cool they are | me too +100000000000 chef
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01-02-2009, 11:33 AM
| | rythum rancher | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on thin ice | | | There's a lotta fuzzy thinking surrounding this "CL" thing. In other words, nobody knows nuthin'.
The former G&L woodworker person, claiming "CL" stands for "clear finish", is obviously mistaken.
Now if I saw "CLF" marked on an old G&L, I'd be inclined to assume it was Leo Fenders initials, for lack of a better explaination. |
01-02-2009, 03:23 PM
| | | Well, according to glguitars.com, the "CL" and "CLF" that they switched to on the instrument serial numbers stand for Clarence, Leo and Fender.
This information is on the second paragraph at http://www.glguitars.com/chronology/index.asp
So, it hardly seems a giant leap to assume that those initials used at G&L would normally stand for Clarence, Leo and Fender in most instances.
I obviously don't know for a fact that Leo ever wrote his initials in a neck pocket, but it certainly seems like a reasonable assumption, especially since BBE decided to use Leo's initials to precede every serial number. If it wasn't Leo Crabtree and wasn't Clear Finish, then what the heck was it?
Does anybody have a sample of Leo's handwriting?
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01-02-2009, 03:57 PM
| | rythum rancher | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on thin ice | | Quote:
So, it hardly seems a giant leap to assume that those initials used at G&L would normally stand for Clarence, Leo and Fender in most instances.
... but it certainly seems like a reasonable assumption, especially since BBE decided to use Leo's initials to precede every serial number. If it wasn't Leo Crabtree and wasn't Clear Finish, then what the heck was it?
| I know, that's exactly the crux. With all the misinfo swirling around, new myths emerge.
This all reminds me of how it was in the early-mid 70's concerning 50's and 60's Fenders. Wrong info was everywhere, even from some experts (barring Gruhn).
By that time, many former Fender employees were dead, senile, MIA, could'nt remember, or simply never knew to begin with. Combine that with Fenders lack of records....
It took years to straighten out the wrong info. And anomolies still live on, giving birth to the saying...."never say never with Fender". |
01-03-2009, 09:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Skylands | | | Yup, it's a challenge, it's frustrating, but it fun. And I obviously need to dig deeper on this one. Unfortunately, I cannot inspect every guitar and bass nor can I locate and interview everyone involved. I'll do the best I can and weed out the misinformation as it is revealed. That's all I can do.
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01-04-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Templar Some of the owners think they're way cooler than they actually are.
The owners, not the basses. LOL | Ha, that there is funny.
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