1,200 Watt Behringer 410 Cabinet

[SPAZ5446]

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend....net?sku=600606

1,200 watts for only $300, crazy!
Suggestions if this is worth it, or if it's just an overpowered cab.

[Growly Lytes]

I dont think its over powered more under !

[s_mcsleazy]

your going to hear these words come up alot

useless, unreliable, crap

[billfitzmaurice]

Wattage ratings are meaningless.

[KramerBassFan]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Wattage ratings are meaningless.

Meaningless in terms of science, but priceless in terms of marketing, sir....

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by SPAZ5446

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend....net?sku=600606

1,200 watts for only $300, crazy!
Suggestions if this is worth it, or if it's just an overpowered cab.

Crazy, and patently untrue. In spite of all the love Behringer gets from fanboys like JimmyM ( oh, yes I did), they are notorious for overstating their specs. This one's beyond funny, even for them. It might just take a 1200 W spike for a nanosecond before it exploded right in front of you, but I wouldn't be putting money on it.

Not sure what you mean by overpowered cab, unless it's this one with more than 300 W into it. There's a reason it's $300.

[SPAZ5446]

I know that more wattage doesn't equal more sound, but I'm still surprised to find a cheap 410 rated at supposedly 1,200 watts. Here's another one by Fender rated at 1,000 watts.

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend....net?sku=H70090

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by SPAZ5446

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend....net?sku=600606

1,200 watts for only $300, crazy!
Suggestions if this is worth it, or if it's just an overpowered cab.

With dimensions being 25-4/5"W x 28-1/5"H x 16"D, there is no way that cab will handle anywhere close to even half (or a quarter more likely) that amount of wattage without farting out (displacement limited as ALL cabs are).

And the frequency range given (38Hz-16kHz) probably means it's mid heavy and will not handle lows very well either. Yeah, it might go down to 38Hz, but it will do it so quietly you won't hear it.

And just think, not only does this cab not offer anything another 410 would, but it also weighs only 100 lbs!

It's not overpowered, just overrated...and over heavy. The price ain't bad though. Wheel/handle placement is a head scratcher too for such a tank.

For only $149 more dollars you could get the TB153 115 3-way Neo from http://www.avatarspeakers.com/ and it would blow the doors off this Berhinger 410 in EVERY WAY. And it only weighs 63lbs. Now THAT cab from Avatar is a deal...and the real deal at that. Check out the TB thread on it here...Avatar 3 way 15/6/tweet

[delta7fred]

1200W will be the power it takes to melt the voice coils.

If you want to see some really exaggerated specs look at car amplifiers. Top of the list on Ebay was 3000W - in a car, you must be joking. This is advertising watts again, not watts RMS. (3000W would draw about 205 amps from the car electrics at 100% efficiency).

[bobcruz]

I didn't try the search function, but somewhere there is a thread with pictures showing just what happens to Behringer woofers when you put about 1/10th the claimed wattage through them--they launch themselves right through the grill!

[GrowlerBox]

Originally Posted by delta7fred

1200W will be the power it takes to melt the voice coils.

My guess is that even then it's an exaggeration.

[delta7fred]

Originally Posted by GrowlerBox

My guess is that even then it's an exaggeration.

You are probably right there.

[jbybj]

Originally Posted by s_mcsleazy

your going to hear these words come up alot

useless, unreliable, crap

Why that stuff is useless, unreliable crap.

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by GrowlerBox

My guess is that even then it's an exaggeration.

Well, there are four tens in it, so each 10" speaker would need to thermally handle 300 watts before melting.

So yeah...I doubt that claim too. Who makes 300 watt tens? and even if anyone did, they sure as heck wouldn't sell for $300 (for all four) in a cabinet no less. I have two 200 watt tens loaded in 110 cabs, but the cabs limit them to about 100 watts and that's even with a generous internal cab volume (that displacement limitation thing again) and both speakers by themselves cost half what this entire loaded cab costs.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by jbybj

Why that stuff is useless, unreliable crap.

Behringer makes decent headphones and pedals. I would not buy any bass amplifier anything, cabs, heads, pre's, tuners, anything from them.

[JoeVictim]

Originally Posted by SPAZ5446

http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend....net?sku=600606

1,200 watts for only $300, crazy!
Suggestions if this is worth it, or if it's just an overpowered cab.

I think we have already told you, fill out your profile and then some of us can get you off on the right foot.

[Growly Lytes]

Yep even without doing tests you can work out that theres no way its going to pump that much out without shooting off into the moonlight.
I personally if i found a great deal on that cab would take them crappy speakers out & get some Eminence.They have every kind of speaker you need.You want 10` with strong mids they got`em.You want 10` with full-on bass.... they got`em & pretty much everything in between.
Id get 4 new 10` & load the specs into a cab design programme.Id say the cab itself wouldnt be that bad construction wise.Trade the original speakers for new Eminence ones & tune her up.

[livinglow]

I wonder what their warranty is like? I would love to hook my Aguilar DB750 or Fender TB-1200 up to one and beat on it until it literally catches on fire, then send it back

[SlingBass4]

Would anyone thinking (an oxymoron IF I ever heard one) of buying one of these because they will support 1200 REAL watts...be interested in buying some ocean front property in Kansas

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by SlingBass4

...ocean front property in Kansas

Wasn't that part of the marketing for this cab?