100 watt enough?

[Noctune]

I'm in a position where I'm able to buy a Fender SK-100B bass head
(Fender SK-100B Bass Amplifier Head > Bass Amps - Atomic Music | Gbase.com) with a

Marshall 2x12 1936 Cabinet with Celestion G12T-75 speakers
(Marshall 1936 Cabinet 212)

100 watts would be produced from this combo, reckon it'd be powerful enough to drown out a drummer, guitarist and vocals? with lets say a 50-100 watt guitar amp, just to do practices and small venue gigs.

Any thoughts?

[Martin89]

Isn't that a guitar cab?

[Mr. Foxen]

That is a guitar cab and 100w of bass will break it.

[Martin89]

Yeah, speakers not voiced properly, Run your 100 Watt Bass head with a bass cab(115 or 410 or 212) and it should keep up for what you're looking to do I would say. Not to "drown out" as you mention but be reasonably matched as long as said band members are reasonable as well.

[RickenBoogie]

+1 do NOT use a guitar cab for bass. It won't sound very good, and the spkrs will be destroyed very shortly after you realize it.

[fingerbun]

Noting others comments about the cab.

I use a 100W Roland Cube with a single 12 for small gigs and rehearsals. Fine for jazz, starts to struggle in rock.

[Noctune]

The cab is fitted with the celestion's which are able to handle bass guitars being played through them, i know all about basses not being used in guitar amps etc, etc. So back the main point would the 100 watts be loud enough for small venues run through 2x12 150(75 watts each( BASS handling speakers?

[runmikeyrun]

I don't think it will be loud enough. People might hear some clanking but there won't be any appreciable low end. I wouldn't use less than 300w and a 4 by something cab for a small club gig.

[christw]

There never was a Celestion sold in that cab that was made for bass guitar. Or are they aftermarket drivers in there? That'd be a tonal crapshoot. It's a guitar cab and not voiced for bass above all else.

[Noctune]

I'm only asking the question because its cheap for the two about £160 so its a good deal tbh and I've got a 4x10 with a 450watt head and its just too heavy to drag about for small venues so I'm after a small rig.

[lowfreq33]

No.

[christw]

If you want the head, buy it. Just skip the cab.

[Marko5657]

Originally Posted by Noctune

The cab is fitted with the celestion's which are able to handle bass guitars being played through them, i know all about basses not being used in guitar amps etc, etc. So back the main point would the 100 watts be loud enough for small venues run through 2x12 150(75 watts each( BASS handling speakers?

Not in that cab.

[SBsoundguy]

100w is not enough to be heard over a drummer, a guitarist, and a vocalist.

[basscooker]

the price you have listed exchanges to a decent price in the u.s. if you're a guitarist in need. for the purposes you stated," what they said". as far as the power, i'd say 100 watts is decent for basements, garages, living rooms and even the corner bar, depending on your material. for anything bigger you would need more amp or pa support.

[1n3]

Originally Posted by Noctune

The cab is fitted with the celestion's which are able to handle bass guitars being played through them...

I doubt you can back up this statement. The driver specs are here. These are guitar speakers, and unless you play very quietly, or with the bass completely rolled off, I agree with those who have advised against it.

As for your question - is 100 watts enough? A "50-100 watt guitar amp" and drummer can get pretty loud, so it depends... If they play quietly enough, sure. In that case, you might be better off with a 100w bass combo.

[fingerbun]

Originally Posted by Noctune

The cab is fitted with the celestion's which are able to handle bass guitars being played through them, i know all about basses not being used in guitar amps etc, etc. So back the main point would the 100 watts be loud enough for small venues run through 2x12 150(75 watts each( BASS handling speakers?

If you really know all about basses not being used in guitar amps, you know what I am about to say.

Those speakers roll off at 80Hz. Bottom E on a four string is about 40Hz, bottom B on a five string is about 30Hz. Bass cabs usually go down to at least 50Hz. EG:

Hartke — 210XL
Hartke — 115XL

The cab you are looking at is tuned for guitar. Modern bass cabs are tuned for bass. If a speaker that rolls off at 80Hz is going to work it will be because of something else in the signal chain to find that bottom octave plus. I don't know if a speaker box can even find an extra octave via porting.

Compare your speaker specs to this:

http://www.eminence.com/pdf/kappalite-3015.pdf

This is a popular bass driver that is usually seen as heavy on midrange rather than lows.

100W is kind of small. 100W plus having to push the heck out of the low frequencies to compensate for having the wrong cab uses up a lot of power that is already in short supply.

Will it work? Well I assume it will make a sound......the best test is to plug in and try, but if it were me, based on the specs, I wouldn't bother.

[mbelue]

100 watts is plenty, if you have enough cone area. 2x12 might be enough....if those 2x12s were in a cabinet of adiquate size(internal volume) and properly voiced for bass. That combination might sound awesome for a guitar, but is fated to sound horrible for bass.

[RoboChrist]

Reproducing the frequencies that a bass can put out requires many times the amount of watts than that of guitar; a 50 watt guitar amp can completely drown out a 100 watt bass amp no problem. With the setup you're considering, you won't even acheive 100 watts because of the mismatched ohm load. You'll get 2/3 of that if you're lucky.

You need more watts, preferably starting at a minimum of 400.

[someparts]

I owned one of these and sorry to say it is the weakest 100 watts ever. Technically was my first real bass head and I ran it into an old Bassman 2x15 cab.

Says sold on the posting now....hope I didn't rain on the parade.