1x12 boxes, eden, aguilar??

[shizoz]

I've been prodding around, trying to find comparisons, I've had some luck, but can't seem to find a thread on these 2 specific ones.
I'm in the market for a 1x12, it would be paired with and Eden WT 400, and possibly an Eden 2x10 wedge. I may get rid of this if I go to 2 1x12's. Anyway, I play in my church, but also play in a folky, country style band. '78 Jazz and an NS design EUB is what would mostly be going through this rig.
I'm looking at either an Eden box or an Aguilar, they seem to be more in my price range. So, who has experience with these? I prefer a tight, focused sound, if it moves alot of air, great, but I usually roll a little mush out anyway. What are your suggestions? And it seems to be the consensus that 2 are better than 1??
Feel free to point me to a thread out there if you know of one...
Thanks!

[rpsands]

None of the above. Get a 115MBE. Size and weight of a 1x12 with a little more power handling than is typical. Can't say about the xmax limitations but the speaker could take a pounding from the combo version I played around with.

I see no reason to even think about spending 500 bucks on 1x12 when you can get one of those bad boys for 225 shipped.

[john m]

I play an Azola EUB through an Eden 112. I'm hoping to get a second one. I use an Ampeg single 15 when I play outdoor gigs w/o PA support but find it too boomy with an EUB.
For bass guitar I use and Eden 4-10.

[Bass Junkie]

I use a WT400 and WT800B with the Berg HT/EX112ER cabs and it is a match made in heaven. I've been through a LOT of amps and cabs and this setup is THE BEST!!

[esa372]

The Eden D112XLT would be great; the D212XLT (one of the best cabs I've heard) would be even better.

Also, don't for get that DNA will be releasing their new line of cabs soon; check them out, too:
http://dnaamps.com/cabgallery/

[shizoz]

Yeah, I've considered a Berg too, all of them seem to be great cabs, I'm afraid what is gonna happen is that I'm gonna want 2! Thought about a 2x12, I just like the scalabilty of having 2 separate cabs...

[Bass Junkie]

Originally Posted by shizoz

Yeah, I've considered a Berg too, all of them seem to be great cabs, I'm afraid what is gonna happen is that I'm gonna want 2! Thought about a 2x12, I just like the scalabilty of having 2 separate cabs...

I use one HT112ER for most of my work and add the EX112ER when needed, but one cab has the biggest sound from any 112 I've ever used and tone to die for. And as I said, the best match I've heard with the WT400.

[::::BASSIST::::]

Originally Posted by rpsands

None of the above. Get a 115MBE. Size and weight of a 1x12 with a little more power handling than is typical. Can't say about the xmax limitations but the speaker could take a pounding from the combo version I played around with.

I see no reason to even think about spending 500 bucks on 1x12 when you can get one of those bad boys for 225 shipped.

I like the specs on those gk 115MBE cabs. 32LBS for a 'full' size 115? Yikes. I'll take two please!

[rpsands]

If they sound anything like the combo's 115, they are amazing sounding too. Smooth bottom, not a ton of upper bass bump, solid mids, very sensitive. The 200w 115 got extremely loud for me.

[MysticMichael]

Originally Posted by rpsands

If they sound anything like the combo's 115, they are amazing sounding too. Smooth bottom, not a ton of upper bass bump, solid mids, very sensitive. The 200w 115 got extremely loud for me.

Sensitive? Interesting...

The MBE spec sheet (downloadable from the GK website) shows the sensitivity rating as 91dB (@ 1M @ 1W I assume)...

MM

[clubdude]

Originally Posted by shizoz

I've been prodding around, trying to find comparisons, I've had some luck, but can't seem to find a thread on these 2 specific ones.
I'm in the market for a 1x12, it would be paired with and Eden WT 400, and possibly an Eden 2x10 wedge. I may get rid of this if I go to 2 1x12's. Anyway, I play in my church, but also play in a folky, country style band. '78 Jazz and an NS design EUB is what would mostly be going through this rig.
I'm looking at either an Eden box or an Aguilar, they seem to be more in my price range. So, who has experience with these? I prefer a tight, focused sound, if it moves alot of air, great, but I usually roll a little mush out anyway. What are your suggestions? And it seems to be the consensus that 2 are better than 1??
Feel free to point me to a thread out there if you know of one...
Thanks!

Check this little baby out. I've posted about it in other threads, but I could not believe it when I heard it.
http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...2042&brandID=3

Be sure to check out all the features. Real punchy, but more bottom end than you would think. I love the switchable ohms, tweeter, and 30lbs! I play Hartke, so I'm biased a little, but not blinded by the name. Been playing over 40 years, so I've tried and/or owned most of the name brands, too.

Customer service is unparalleled, also. You can call Larry Hartke any time of the day or night. That's worth a lot.
Hope this is helpful,
CD

[::::BASSIST::::]

Originally Posted by MysticMichael

Sensitive? Interesting...

The MBE spec sheet (downloadable from the GK website) shows the sensitivity rating as 91dB (@ 1M @ 1W I assume)...

MM

91 seems very low.

[goran]

Consider the Genz-Benz Neox 112T. This cab absolutely kills! Add another one and you have a rig that will cover almost everything! It sounds very even across the spectrum (used with my Markbass Little Mark II)

[shizoz]

Well, I think I'm gonna try the Eden, I found one for a decent price, see how I like that one. The specs on it look really good. We'll see how it goes. This is my first venture into 1x12 land - I hope it is the land of milk and honey!

Eden d112xlt specs:
Crossover 2.5KHz @ 18dB
Power Handling 250W RMS
Freq. Response 32hz - 14khz ±2dB
Sensitivity 103dB SPL@1W1M
Impedance 8Ω
Dimensions 21”w x 15.25”h x 14.5”d
Weight 32 LBS

[ChrisPbass]

that Eden gets a good amount of bad press on this site ~ do a search and you'll see. FYI

[4Mal]

I found the 112 XLT to be kinda midrangy, the GS112T was way too scooped and a gs112/112T stack was worse - My pick would be Epifani...

[clubdude]

Originally Posted by shizoz

Well, I think I'm gonna try the Eden, I found one for a decent price, see how I like that one. The specs on it look really good. We'll see how it goes. This is my first venture into 1x12 land - I hope it is the land of milk and honey!

Eden d112xlt specs:
Crossover 2.5KHz @ 18dB
Power Handling 250W RMS
Freq. Response 32hz - 14khz ±2dB
Sensitivity 103dB SPL@1W1M
Impedance 8Ω
Dimensions 21”w x 15.25”h x 14.5”d
Weight 32 LBS

Hartke HyDrive 112 specs, for comparison's sake..
1 x 12-inch 300 watt HyDrive neodymium hybrid cone driver
1-inch titanium compression driver
Power Handling: 300 watts
Ported Cabinet
Impedance: Switchable between 4 and 8 ohms
Frequency Response: 41 Hz to 17 kHz
Sensitivity: 96 dB @ 1 W/1 m
Voice Coil: 2.5"
Parallel Speakon(R) and 1/4" inputs
High Frequency attenuation switch (On, -6 dB, Off)
Dimensions: 19"(H) x 15"(W) x 16"(D)
Weight: 30.4 lbs
$349

[shizoz]

Originally Posted by clubdude

Hartke HyDrive 112 specs, for comparison's sake..

Impedance: Switchable between 4 and 8 ohms

Very handy to have this feature, I've often wondered how to do this, if there is some sort of resistor you could put in line to change the load. Very impressive, but for some reason, I see Hartke, and I think 80's.... Lol, not sure why.

[clubdude]

Originally Posted by shizoz

Very handy to have this feature, I've often wondered how to do this, if there is some sort of resistor you could put in line to change the load. Very impressive, but for some reason, I see Hartke, and I think 80's.... Lol, not sure why.

Two voice coils, I believe. Switchable between the two.

"And to make the HX112 more accommodating for a variety of settings and playing styles, the speaker has been engineered as a dual-impedance driver, allowing you to switch between 4 and 8 ohm impedances for additional flexibility."

I know what you mean by "I think 80's", but things change....
With Larry's responsiveness to new ideas and changes from a bassist's perspective, his brand has continued to improve, but it's his goal to keep it affordable, too. That certainly does not mean it's cheap.

I've been playing since the 60's (started when I was nine), and the new HyDrive stuff is the best I've heard, regardless of price. It is that good. And with the extra money, you can buy TWO!

CD

[shizoz]

Originally Posted by ChrisPbass

that Eden gets a good amount of bad press on this site ~ do a search and you'll see. FYI

Well, I live in a market where I can't just go and play these cabs, and I'm aware of the comments on this cab. It fit my price range, and I'm OK taking a chance. Hopefully, I'll love it, but I can always sell it (I've seen these move on this site fairly quickly) if I don't. Besides, that is part of the mystical tone search, right? 90% of us have a 'previously used gear' list that would make Guit Center's inventory look like a bad pawn shop (some might think it does already!).