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Old 03-22-2011, 05:45 PM
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Hej,
I was playing today at a repetition and my overall tone is pretty well.
But when the guitar kicks in, my bass sound sounds really too fat. The only thing i hear is boomyness in my tone.
Where it 's quite impossible.
I play with a rick 4003 '88 (tone controls open)
=> clarsbro
(100 watt tube amp, drake transistor, hiwatt like sound).
=> ampeg svt-210HE + svt-115E.
The only pots for the channel thats on are
top cut = 0
treble = 7
bass = 4
strings => d 'addario half rounds.

Really blowing my socks off so powerfull, but too boomy.

if someone does know what i can do about it,
please help me than cus its getting on my nerves
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:52 PM
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Every instrument needs to leave sonic space for all of the other instruments. Either you or the guitar player need to change their tone controls. You could try turning down your bass and treble and turning up your volume. The guitar player could try to turn his bass down (good luck with that one )
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:54 PM
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Every instrument needs to leave sonic space for all of the other instruments. Either you or the guitar player need to change their tone controls. You could try turning down your bass and treble and turning up your volume. The guitar player could try to turn his bass down (good luck with that one )
you know guitar players man...
behind your back they put the bass always back high.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:05 PM
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you know guitar players man...
behind your back they put the bass always back high.
I have a problem with that. I won't play with those people. I guess I'm getting grumpy as I get older!
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:07 PM
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hahah,can it be the resonance of the room maybe that let 's my bass boom out maybe ? we both play 100 watt rigs in a 7 * 4 meter room.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:10 PM
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my guess is also that your GP is using a bass heavy tone.

Try getting them to adjust their EQ (have a good time!), and also try dialing back the bass and maybe even boosting some mids somewhere on the bass.

I've often found one of the best fixes for this scenario is to leave my bass control flat (or maybe even turn down the bass frequencies down somewhere between 30 and 250 Hz), and bumping mids just a touch and then turning the amp up just a bit. often with a bit of experimentation you can still get plenty of bass response, but maintain a clear tone.
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Some cabinets are much boomier than others. Tube amps can sound excessively boomy with ported cabinets as opposed to sealed cabs.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:13 PM
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boosting the mids won 't be a problem I gues, it 's a rick x).
But otherwise, I only have a bass and treble control. top cut is a weak lpf I gues.

my cabs are ported yes =/
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Sure, it could be the room. Turning down the bass control should give you the answer. Are there any sound damping materials in the room?
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:14 PM
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Sure, it could be. Turning down the bass control should give you the answer. Are there any sound damping materials in the room?
there are carpets on the floor and plenty of sofa 's
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:16 PM
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there are carpets on the floor and plenty of sofa 's
I keep thinking it is the guitar players fault, I just can't help it!
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:18 PM
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I 'll check it out next time I am there
But it could be, he 's using a orange rockerverb 100 at almost full gain xD.
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Might just be the guitar player.
Or maybe you could try different strings.
Strings can be a huge change to a rig.
I suggest DR Sunbeams.
A little more mid-treble boost.
They sound great on a Ric.
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This randomly happened as soon as my gp started using a chorus pedal on one of our songs. I just ended up playing in the upper register in more of a lead part during that segment of the song. Annoying but guitarists honestly seldom will tweak the eq. I'm willing to say that, I'm one of em also. bassist first and foremost though!!

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Old 03-22-2011, 07:31 PM
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I 'm going to sell the ampegs.
In here I easilly get 400€ each
than I go buy a marshall vbc-412.
cus I like 412, (sealed too than i guess) and like to play old british stuff 8-).
and while I do that, drop the bass at the guitar
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