2x10 cab + 2x12???

stix_clgi · #1 12-01-2011, 12:45 PM

Hey TB!

Just wondering if anyone has this particular configuration and how they like it? I recently acquired a Waynes Jones 2x10 cab in a trade here, and I love the cab, it's by far the best and most transparent sounding I've personally played. I was going to order an Avatar TB153 to match it with to give it some extra low end thump, but when I mated it to my upgraded Peavey Tour 115, I didn't quite like the sound. It was super midrange-y...So I hooked it up to the Tour 4x10, and the sound blew me away. So I'm just curious, since a 2x12 will move more air than a 1x15, do you guys think I'll get that bass response, or should I just get a 4x10? Any help, opinions are appreciated!!!

CL400Peavey · #2 12-01-2011, 12:50 PM

Low end response has NOTHING to do with speaker size... The TB153 is a full range cab, try it by itself.

tombowlus · #3 12-01-2011, 12:53 PM

Are you looking for a cab to go with your Wayne Jones 2x10? If that is the case, then I'd suggest trying to find another Wayne Jones 2x10. I have two of them, and they are glorious, but they are not as mix and match friendly as some other cabs. For one thing, they are not very efficient, and they definitely respond to some serious juice being thrown at them.

In general, you will get more predictable and more consistently good pairings by stacking two similar cabs. However, my experience has been that at least some "dissimilar" stacks can work really well. One such example is the Mesa/Booge PH212/PH210, and another is the Epifani UL-112/UL-110. These somewhat unconventional stacks sound gloriously good together (to my ear, at least), but that does not mean that all 2x10 + 2x12 pairings are going to yield such pleasing results.

Hope this helps, Tom.

Slowgypsy · #4 12-01-2011, 12:56 PM

As a rule of thumb, I find that doubling up on the same cab yields results that exceed the one cab by itself. Adding a different configuration cab more often than not, doesn't give yield results that blow me away. Not saying it can't be done, but as a rule of thumb....

stix_clgi · #5 12-01-2011, 01:02 PM

Thank you both for your responses. I just talked to the guys at Avatar and they actually recommended the TB153 over the B212. Preferably I would like to get another WJ cab, alas, I can't afford one, and I came across the one I have in probably the best trade I've ever done lol. (Ampeg B5r for the WJ?!)...I'm getting ready to sell the three cabs I don't need/want, and since I don't travel much with my gear (church musician), size and weight aren't a big deal to me either.

What I really mean to say is I'm just looking for something that will add some low end to the WJ. I'm currently using a Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 with a Peavey Cirrus or Agile Prestige Z 6.

@CL400, I was always under the impression that the larger the combined surface area of the speaker/s in a cab, the deeper the response? I'm still learning this stuff, but that's what they told me when I was looking to upgrade my rig a few years ago. I quote, "4x10's move more air than a 1x15, so you will get a deeper sound from the 4x10." LOL, that's what he said, so I believed him.

tombowlus · #6 12-01-2011, 01:05 PM

Have you heard the WJ yet? IME/IMHO, those cabs have amazing low end. With a decent amp, if you don't need to kill small mammals with SPL, you might be do just fine with only the one cab.

**Mulebagger** · #7 12-01-2011, 01:22 PM

I'm not a fan of mixing driver sizes in different cabs. If you like the sound of one cab, I'd just get a second so that you have a more predictable sound without strange holes or different volumes over the frequency range.

I'm not talking from a point of cabinet design knowledge, but just the experiences I've had mixing and matching.

I've got friends that swear by a 15 and 2x10. for my money, I'd rather just get a second 2x10.

stix_clgi · #8 12-01-2011, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tombowlus

Have you heard the WJ yet? IME/IMHO, those cabs have amazing low end. With a decent amp, if you don't need to kill small mammals with SPL, you might be do just fine with only the one cab.

Oh yes, I have the WJ now, though admittedly I only spent about and 1 1/2 hours with it and my Genz Benz. It did have a great low end, I'm very impressed with the cab, but I'm coming from a 1x15, 4x10 Peavey Tour cab rig, with an Ampeg B5r. Like, I could blow out the walls of the church if I wanted to lol!!! Like I said, I would love to get another WJ, but those things are like $1400 brand new, and I haven't ever seen too many used models...

Lol @ kill small mammals........

jastacey · #9 12-01-2011, 07:17 PM

I have a Aguilar GS210 & GS212, and it's a very nice sounding set-up, the 210's give just the right amount of punch and mids .... IMHO

dog1 · #10 12-01-2011, 07:44 PM

Hmmmm. After building my 2-112's, I sold both my GS212 and my NeoX212T. I guess it's the mid driver that helps me through. Or maybe the the 3012LF's. I dunno. Mixing drivers (1-15 + 4-10's, for example) is not my thing.

PeterF · #11 05-18-2012, 05:21 PM

I have a Wayne Jones I'm just getting to know. I paired it with a Bergantino Ht112 and it sounds very good to my ears. The Wayne fills the low and the HT has a great high end. I have not hooked it up with my Stewart 2.1, I think i will try running each cab through a different channel to be able to adjust for the different efficiency. That way, I can push more juice to the Wayne!

I have also not hooked up both 112 cabs (HT and EX 112s).

hooking up the Wayne and the HT112 drops to 4 ohms and even with a Markbass LMT 800 it's dang loud and punchy.