410 + 115?

[papa gnush]

I know that lots of guys run 210 + 115 to beef up their sound but have any of you run 410 + 115? I am seriously considering doing so but I noticed that the 15's usually have a 3-6 less decibel sensitivity and am wondering how much difference it will make in the over all sound.

Thanks, all!

[Geddyfleaharris]

From experience the 410 simply overpowers the 115. You never hear the 115. I am not sure if farther out from the stage you start hearing the 115 or not. Maybe but sort of doubt it.

[CopperheadLXXIX]

Pretty sure this has been covered in great detail many times. Search is your friend.

[April Ethereal]

Ive heard that a 15 goes great with a 410. Actually I just asked my local music store if I should add a 15 or another 410 to my GK 4x10 blx II cab and they highly recommended the 15 over 410 ! Hope this helps

[LB75]

http://www.gallien-krueger.com/artist_profile_flea.html

[rpsands]

Clearly if a professional musician uses it, it's got to be a well paired rig. They know everything about everything, especially about audio engineering.

[papa gnush]

The reason i'm considering adding a 15 to my 410 is because I like the options it gives me. I can leave the 410 at home and take the 15 to rehearsals or smaller gigs...

I wish I could just throw another 210 under the 410 but the power would be uneven and when i crank it the 210 would be loaded with twice as much wattage per driver as the 410.

[rpsands]

What kind of 4x10 are you using now?

Haven't met a gig 2 single ported 15's couldn't handle. But, I am NOT a 10" speaker fan. I prefer old school to new, and like the "slower" attack of the larger driver, sans "tweeter."

I started my pro career with the Ampeg V-9 SVT w/ 8x10 "fridge" cab. However, my favorite speaker cabinet is supposed to be the worst thing you could possibly have, and according to most respondents here, shouldn't work because it is too small!!

Lots of opinions here... Listen to every cabinet possible, at your volume level. Let your ears decide. If you can't crank it in the store, ask to take it to rehearsal. If you aren't allowed, PASS, and go to the next store. Store bought cabinets are far too expensive to purchase without a trial.

WARNING!!! Do NOT buy with your eyes!!! Use your ears!

[papa gnush]

I'm using an Eden D410XLT. 8ohm.

the 15's in question are the Eden D115T and the Mesa Boogie Diesel 115. All at 8ohm.

[billfitzmaurice]

Do a search. I believe the last time this was asked was two days ago, and it never goes more than a week before it gets asked again.

[papa gnush]

my apologies. i'm still getting used to doing efficient searches/being patient with the searches. i've been looking around more and finding lots of good opinions out there.

[elavate7]

try your options out. i would personally add a 210 to the 410. that should give you alot of punch

[papa gnush]

well i've been considering that. but it doesn't quite make sense to me...

Consider this:
1 - 410 cab @ 8 ohms.
1 - 210 cab @ 8 ohms.

each is getting half of the output from my amphead which would be running at 4 ohms and at 550 watts. So the 210 gets 225 watts and the 410 gets 225 watts.

I may be wrong but it seems like the drivers in the 210 will work twice as hard as the 410.

thoughts?

[CopperheadLXXIX]

Originally Posted by tifftunes

But, I am NOT a 10" speaker fan. I prefer old school to new, and like the "slower" attack of the larger driver, sans "tweeter."...

...WARNING!!! Do NOT buy with your eyes!!! Use your ears!

Isn't this at least mildly ironic?

[rpsands]

The only sensible 2x10 to pair with a 4x10 is one that is double the impedance. So a 16 ohm 2x10 and an 8 ohm 4x10 is fine, or an 8 ohm 2x10 and 4 ohm 4x10.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by rpsands

The only sensible 2x10 to pair with a 4x10 is one that is double the impedance. So a 16 ohm 2x10 and an 8 ohm 4x10 is fine,...

.......which is what I did, and it's great. 2x10's are (almost)always wired parallel. So I got an 8 Ohm 2x10 and wired it series, to 16 Ohms. Paired with the 8 Ohm 4x10 the total load is 5.3 Ohms, with equal power to each driver. Bliss.

[rpsands]

Wiring up a switch to change wiring from series to parallel would probably not be that difficult, for the 2x10. And a decent idea if you use good drivers and plan to use the 2x10 standalone sometimes.

[dmusic148]

^ I actually did that, too. It's handy.

[Sartori]

4x10"s have roughly twice the speaker area of 1x15"s.

They will generally overpower them. Get another 4x10.