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09-27-2010, 12:20 PM
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I know that Hiwatt and Mesa Boogie make a 410 plus 15 cab, but are there any other companies that do so? |
09-27-2010, 12:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga. | | | Ampeg did many years ago, you may be able to find one on Ebay or Craigslist...
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09-27-2010, 12:36 PM
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09-27-2010, 12:38 PM
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09-27-2010, 12:40 PM
|  | Less Ebay, more Mel Bay | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | | Quite a few do and it's always a waste of time.
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09-27-2010, 12:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Louisville, KY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rpsands  Quite a few do and it's always a waste of time. | disagree
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09-27-2010, 12:43 PM
| | Less Ebay, more Mel Bay | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | | I've played a bunch of them and the comparable 8x10, 6x10 or 4x12 has always sounded better to me. Mesa is the big guy here, their 6x10 DESTROYS the PH1000/1200.
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09-27-2010, 12:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada | | | I will respect that you call it a waste of time, but I would also like to know why you think that is so. |
09-27-2010, 12:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Miami,FL | | | the Ampeg Model Is a 1540HE By far the Best cab I owned. Better Than an Ampeg 810 or the 2x15.
Emperor will make one as well.
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09-27-2010, 12:48 PM
|  | Hip No Ties | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY | | | The 15" driver and the four 10s are a mismatch from the word go. The 10s just about always overpower the 15, while the 15 serves only to limit the amount of power you can use to drive the cab.
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09-27-2010, 12:50 PM
| | Less Ebay, more Mel Bay | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | | Because the 1x15 combined with most 4x10s is generally at least 3db and generally more like 6db less sensitive (especially in the mids) than the 4x10s, and capable of handling half the power. In exchange for that sacrifice, you get absolutely nothing. There is a small potential for extended bottom, but it's almost never noticeable since by the time you get it you're driving the 15 into distortion.
If you use really crappy 10" woofers and a really nice 15" woofer it can work out OK, but in most cases you'd be better using another nice 15" woofer instead of a bunch of crappy 10s.
If you're using really nice 10s, there is no 15 that can keep up except the 3015LF, which requires some serious design to make work (a big box and a low pass filter would be ideal).
However, that's all academic as what you can expect is 4 eminence beta 10's and a beta 15 in an undersized box.
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09-27-2010, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada | | | So basically it will be quieter and less sensitive? |
09-27-2010, 01:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cowtown, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMichaelYeah the Ampeg Model Is a 1540HE By far the Best cab I owned. Better Than an Ampeg 810 or the 2x15.
| I've got the 1540 and the 810e and I'd have to disagree-
The 810 sounds better & louder to my ears,
The 1540 is ported and only runs at 8 ohms full range. |
09-27-2010, 01:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina | | | Yep.
But hey, it "looks" cool.
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09-27-2010, 01:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada | | | I'm also thinking along terms of portability, they look as though they take up the same footprint as a 610, but lighter. I'm trying to approach this from a very... young point of view I guess. Could a good sounding Wall of Sound be achieved with two of them or would my money be better spent on, say, an 810 or 610 pared with a 215? |
09-27-2010, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsMichaelYeah the Ampeg Model Is a 1540HE By far the Best cab I owned. Better Than an Ampeg 810 or the 2x15.
Emperor will make one as well. | Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOLIGAN I've got the 1540 and the 810e and I'd have to disagree-
The 810 sounds better & louder to my ears,
The 1540 is ported and only runs at 8 ohms full range. |
I'm going to disagree too.
I owned a 1540HE, and it was by far the worst cabinet I ever owned. I could not sell it off fast enough.
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09-27-2010, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rayzak disagree | As do I - with you! RP is correct.
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09-27-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul As do I - with you! RP is correct. | In your humble opinion.... 
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09-27-2010, 01:50 PM
|  | Jazz Chicken | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ennui, IN USA | | | Personally, I've become a believer in the 2x15 club.
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09-27-2010, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HOOLIGAN I've got the 1540 and the 810e and I'd have to disagree-
The 810 sounds better & louder to my ears,
The 1540 is ported and only runs at 8 ohms full range. |
I would run my my cab at 4 ohms with no problem. did that for 3 years.
the Better Part is Completely Subjective. Louder maybe. but How loud are you really playing. I Like Lower wattage cabs so I get full use of the cab.
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