410 choices ... Epiphany, SWR golight, Genz Benz

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by B String

Ok, I'm going to go another way here.

I used to own an F2b, Crown amp, and a single rack space 15 band stereo eq. 15 bands for each side of the F2b. Had it all in a 6 space effects depth rack. I used with whatever backline box was provided. The reason is because I could make almost any box sound how I wanted it. I truly loved that set up.

My point is that it might be a whole lot easier and cheaper to just put a good single space eq in your rack. You'll be able to add punch and whatever frequencies you aren't getting now for a fraction of the cost of a new speaker box.

yes, it is a good thought but I really dont want to compromise my FOH sound with an eq in the signal chain. I run "post" out of the FX1

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by Lorenzini

Aguilar DB or SL series for what you're describing.

I'd also look at GK Neo 410. That has everything you need at the lower price point!

Thanks for the suggestions- I dont have enough faith in the GK drivers considering the amount of power I push. I dont believe Ag makes a 410 neo

[kingmusicism]

I am now looking at the Avatar 410, the SWR golight and the Epiphani UL2

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic

I have an Epifani UL2-310, and I absolutely love it, I haven't played a cab yet that I enjoy as much. It is nice and lightweight and the tone is nice and clear with nothing added to it. If you can find a UL2 get it now, I thought they were phasing them out for the new UL3 line with has ceramic drivers.

As far as Markbass cabs, I love mine but I don't recommend it nearly as highly, and it has nothing to do with colour. Their cabs are voiced in the low mids, they definitely colour your tone, unlike their heads.

I really dont feel warm and fuzzy about the way an odd number of speakers is wired in a given box. I appreciate your post, and am sure it sounds great

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by Poopoutyouridea

A good 410 should be able to go as low as any 115, it just doesn't seem like that. In a live setting, you don't want that boomy low bass, you want a tight defined mid-sounding punch. Also, try to read the amp stickies. They can be a mountain of information, especially regarding matching cabs and the difference between 10s and 15s.

I am not at all interested in a 15. Thanks for your reply

[Lorenzini]

Originally Posted by kingmusicism

I dont believe they make a 410 neo cab

Here you are
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampli...r-cabinet-800w

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by shoot-r

How about "two" 210 cabinets.
Use one for small jobs/rehearsals, both stacked as a vertical 410 when more volume and coverage is needed.

A vertical 410 will give you better mids dispersion, better projection and less phasing issues than the standard 410 configuration.
A vertical 410 will give you the height advantages of a larger/taller cabinet by getting the top driver up closer to your ears giving better clarity.

I've been gigging with a vertical 410 rig for some time now.......never going back to a standard configured 410.

Hi- thanks for your reply. 2 cabs wont work for me, as I have an 8 space floor rack which the cab will have to sit on top of. There is seldom enough floor space for me to go side by side with racks and cabs. The rack is 22" tall, a 410 will sit on it at perfect.

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by Lorenzini

Here you are
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampli...r-cabinet-800w

Thanks for the suggestions- I dont have enough faith in the GK drivers considering the amount of power I push. I dont believe Ag makes a 410 neo

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic

I have an Epifani UL2-310, and I absolutely love it, I haven't played a cab yet that I enjoy as much. It is nice and lightweight and the tone is nice and clear with nothing added to it. If you can find a UL2 get it now, I thought they were phasing them out for the new UL3 line with has ceramic drivers.

As far as Markbass cabs, I love mine but I don't recommend it nearly as highly, and it has nothing to do with colour. Their cabs are voiced in the low mids, they definitely colour your tone, unlike their heads.

Agreed on the Markbass, regardless of color (hue) I have the 210 combo, which I really do love, but have tried the spks and head independently, so I know what you are talking about.

[ChuckTrucks]

My Genz Uber 4x10 is godly. I also have a Mesa Powerhouse 4x10.

The Uber is birch/poplar with neo drivers. Its light and handles well over the 1000w RMS rating 4 ohm rating. Weighs 70 lbs. Before I bought it I was thinking "Hmm I hope it can handle a lot of power because its going to take all the power out of my Streamliner 900 at 4 ohms." No problemo!

The Mesa Powerhouse is 600w at 8 ohms and starts farting out before that. Its not a powerhouse at all. Its also all birch so it weights 100 lbs. For some reason the top of it is less rigid than the Genz Uber cab because it vibrates at a semi loud volume where as the uber cab gets played louder and remains calm. The Genz heads I use put out 500w at 8 ohms and if you crank the amp the cab vibrates and the grill rattles. This post is basically convincing me, as I type this, to sell the Mesa cab.

I would say some nerds designed that Uber cab because it is a beast.

I would not hesitate to recommend that cab to anyone.

I would like to find other quality cabs similar in idea to the Uber 4x10 because I very much enjoy playing a variety of different gear.

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by ChuckTrucks

My Genz Uber 4x10 is godly. I also have a Mesa Powerhouse 4x10.

The Uber is birch/poplar with neo drivers. Its light and handles well over the 1000w RMS rating 4 ohm rating. Weighs 70 lbs. Before I bought it I was thinking "Hmm I hope it can handle a lot of power because its going to take all the power out of my Streamliner 900 at 4 ohms." No problemo!

The Mesa Powerhouse is 600w at 8 ohms and starts farting out before that. Its not a powerhouse at all. Its also all birch so it weights 100 lbs. For some reason the top of it is less rigid than the Genz Uber cab because it vibrates at a semi loud volume where as the uber cab gets played louder and remains calm. The Genz heads I use put out 500w at 8 ohms and if you crank the amp the cab vibrates and the grill rattles. This post is basically convincing me, as I type this, to sell the Mesa cab.

I would say some nerds designed that Uber cab because it is a beast.

I would not hesitate to recommend that cab to anyone.

I would like to find other quality cabs similar in idea to the Uber 4x10 because I very much enjoy playing a variety of different gear.

Hi and thanks a ton. I was really digging that idea, but the cab is just a little bit taller then I would like. Granted, this may sound silly, but with all the options available, why not shoot for perfection I am sure the cab kills ... I do love GB cabs

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by ChuckTrucks

My Genz Uber 4x10 is godly. I also have a Mesa Powerhouse 4x10.

The Uber is birch/poplar with neo drivers. Its light and handles well over the 1000w RMS rating 4 ohm rating. Weighs 70 lbs. Before I bought it I was thinking "Hmm I hope it can handle a lot of power because its going to take all the power out of my Streamliner 900 at 4 ohms." No problemo!

The Mesa Powerhouse is 600w at 8 ohms and starts farting out before that. Its not a powerhouse at all. Its also all birch so it weights 100 lbs. For some reason the top of it is less rigid than the Genz Uber cab because it vibrates at a semi loud volume where as the uber cab gets played louder and remains calm. The Genz heads I use put out 500w at 8 ohms and if you crank the amp the cab vibrates and the grill rattles. This post is basically convincing me, as I type this, to sell the Mesa cab.

I would say some nerds designed that Uber cab because it is a beast.

I would not hesitate to recommend that cab to anyone.

I would like to find other quality cabs similar in idea to the Uber 4x10 because I very much enjoy playing a variety of different gear.

Too further qualify, I sometimes have an additional mixer on top of my rig and I am a little short in physical stature, so I need to see the top of it easily

[B String]

Originally Posted by kingmusicism

yes, it is a good thought but I really dont want to compromise my FOH sound with an eq in the signal chain. I run "post" out of the FX1

You could simply run the eq in line AFTER the FX1. That way you can still use your DI out the same way you are now.

By the way, my UL310 is still one of my all time favorite cabs.
And I've owned a lot of cabs.
Also, it might help to give good usable opinions if you could fill out your profile a little.

[Lorenzini]

Originally Posted by kingmusicism

Thanks for the suggestions- I dont have enough faith in the GK drivers considering the amount of power I push. I dont believe Ag makes a 410 neo

Hi, I hear you. I would like to say that GK definitely specialize in BIGNAME tours and they do pretty well. You may totally have your own opinion on this!

Aguilar SL410 indeed is neo.
Four 10" cast frame woofers, 11 oz. neo magnets
http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm

GREAT sounding cabs.

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by Lorenzini

Hi, I hear you. I would like to say that GK definitely specialize in BIGNAME tours and they do pretty well. You may totally have your own opinion on this!

Aguilar SL410 indeed is neo.
Four 10" cast frame woofers, 11 oz. neo magnets
http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm

GREAT sounding cabs.

wow, I stand corrected. Will look into this cab- thanks!

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by B String

You could simply run the eq in line AFTER the FX1. That way you can still use your DI out the same way you are now.

By the way, my UL310 is still one of my all time favorite cabs.
And I've owned a lot of cabs.
Also, it might help to give good usable opinions if you could fill out your profile a little.

yes, I suppose I could do that, but my issue isn't so much a lack of eq control, more of how the cab reacts to eq, and its short comings on a large stage with low end bleed from the mains when playing through installs that are built into the floor (pa)

[kingmusicism]

Originally Posted by Lorenzini

Hi, I hear you. I would like to say that GK definitely specialize in BIGNAME tours and they do pretty well. You may totally have your own opinion on this!

Aguilar SL410 indeed is neo.
Four 10" cast frame woofers, 11 oz. neo magnets
http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm

GREAT sounding cabs.

ah, it is discontinued. I think that's why I didn't include it initially. So many companies are getting out of Neo

[sumgruuvz]

yes they do. just got mine today

[sumgruuvz]

sorry. was referring to the gk. i misread. but i do like it. 800 rms watts, 70 lbs. great tone. just my $.02

[dmusic148]

Love, love, love my Golight. Never tried the others though. Except the Epi 3x10, which I own and don't care for. SWR has a lot more beef in the low mids.