4x10 vs 1x15 (x2)

comrade73 · #1 06-13-2010, 07:45 AM

I saw the other thread and it got me wondering. I'm curious more about low end, sub frequencies. I don't really care about "cutting" through with mids or highs. I'm interested in bass you can feel. So for pure internal organ vibration, what is bigger, badder, and bottom-er? And why?

4x10
1x15 (x2)

ehque · #2 06-13-2010, 08:14 AM

Not all 4x10s are made equal. Not all 1x15s are made equal.

MisterBassie · #3 06-13-2010, 08:36 AM

1x18!

RickenBoogie · #4 06-13-2010, 08:38 AM

It's more a matter of the cab design, NOT driver size. There are some 410's that put out more bottom than many 15's, such as the Ampeg SVT410hlf. Acme cabs are notorious for their bottom. Forget driver size, focus on frequency response.

comrade73 · #5 06-13-2010, 08:57 AM

Ok, all exceptions aside. Let's say we've found the best booty shakin cabs in both cases. The question becomes either blue, or red... no other answers. What wins? Or is it too close to call?

anonymous02282011 · #6 06-13-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by comrade73

So for pure internal organ vibration, what is bigger, badder, and bottom-er? And why?

4x10
1x15 (x2)

I don't think having two of a single cab will lower frequency response. In other words,if the 410 goes lower than the 15, adding a second 15 won't help that cause.

A second cab will make you louder which inevitably sounds "better" when doing listening tests, so you will probably like two of any cab better than one.

By your criteria, choose the cab that goes lowest and you're done.

sikamikanico · #7 06-13-2010, 10:28 AM

from my (limited) experience, a couple of 10s can sound lower, but will lack certain midrange i found in the 15s... my experience is mostly based on Ashdown, Hartke and lower level cabs, so...

UncleBalsamic · #8 06-13-2010, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comrade73

Ok, all exceptions aside. Let's say we've found the best booty shakin cabs in both cases. The question becomes either blue, or red... no other answers. What wins? Or is it too close to call?

Sorry?

Frankie Fender · #9 06-13-2010, 12:37 PM

Too general a question, it all depends on the cab, not speaker size. I voted two 15s because that's what works for me and gives me thick booty-bumpin' tone, but I have owned 410s that were just as low.

D.M.N. · #10 06-13-2010, 01:31 PM

1x18 Folded Horn, ala Acoustic 360. That should rearrange some anatomy for you...

ehque · #11 06-13-2010, 01:45 PM

Agreed on the folded horns. They go lower and louder than equivalent direct radiator cabs.

Look to BFM cab designs.

ThunderousFunk · #12 06-13-2010, 01:48 PM

Multiple 18's!!! Or try a Basson 8x10.

cassanova · #13 06-13-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

It's more a matter of the cab design, NOT driver size. There are some 410's that put out more bottom than many 15's, such as the Ampeg SVT410hlf. Acme cabs are notorious for their bottom. Forget driver size, focus on frequency response.

Doesn't most of the bass that comes from the cab come from the ports? (I've heard this numerous times, from various people)

If that's the case. Wouldn't driver size have something to do with the overall frequencies that the different size driver puts out. EX's: if both cabs are sealed with no porting, speaker size would be a determining factor as to bottom end because 10's don't delve that low in the spectrum? I've also never played or saw a gig where anyone mic'd the ports/vents on cabs either. So speaker size does matter, no? If no, then please explain.

Calaverasgrande · #14 06-13-2010, 03:47 PM

a 2x15 (not two 1x15 cabs) seems to go quite low to me. Something about that internal volume does the trick. Though they arent the most efficient cabs around. If you use a couple 4x10's it will get quite loud but might not have the most authoritative low end.
Lately I have been surprised to find that some 2x12"s strike a nice balance between low end and being just plain loud.

I think saying that all speakers are the same regardless of size is a little sophomoric.
15" cabs generally go low, but are kind of chirpy in the mids and beamy in the mids as well.
2x10 and 4x10 cabs tend to be more mid focussed and more sensitive than 15"s. Sure Acme cabs go super low (but arent very sensitive). But many 10" cabs that I have tried are shy on the lows.

comrade73 · #15 06-13-2010, 04:10 PM

18's would be more devastating for lows? So then by the same logic wouldn't a couple of 15 cabs push more air than a single 4x10 cab?

HFDBLAZE · #16 06-13-2010, 04:40 PM

for all of your answers go to the Ampeg website and read about their 4x10 cabs and even the 8x10 cab. I play through a Ampeg 8x10 cab and trust me when I tell you that I am producing some serious lows.