4x10 vs. 2x10/1x15 - Page 2

DrPieZon · #21 06-13-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SwamiRob

Well the scientific argument is that the two cabs will have different responses and cancel each other out, plus 15s are not inherently bassier then 10s. ...

I'd like to agree with the second part of this but the first, while scientifically true, still may yield a great tone. I've played an Eden D210T and D115T speaker set up for years. I can tell you that in this set up the 210 is actually deeper and cleaner. While the 115 has a nice mid hump with some growl that the 210 does not get. The 115 gets the rock Pbass tone while the 210 has a wider (slightly scooped) tone that's more "modern". So I have these options as seperates or together I get a great combination of the two that is loud and versitile.

rptrsn2 · #22 06-13-2010, 10:43 AM

i always hear the cancelling freq argument, i believe the diff responses compliment eachother. i don,t care to hear all 10,s or all 15,s as it always sounds like somthings missing, put them together and its perfect, i also did the 410,115 and did,nt care much for it 210, 115 is much more balanced. i,m getting ready to install a 3015lf with a low pass in my 15 cab to get even stronger low end may try it without the crossover first.

raymondl3 · #23 06-13-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rptrsn2

i always hear the cancelling freq argument, i believe the diff responses compliment eachother. i don,t care to hear all 10,s or all 15,s as it always sounds like somthings missing, put them together and its perfect, i also did the 410,115 and did,nt care much for it 210, 115 is much more balanced. i,m getting ready to install a 3015lf with a low pass in my 15 cab to get even stronger low end may try it without the crossover first.

Is the volume from a 210+15 comparable to a 410? I've found 210s by themselves to be a little wimpy for louder gigs. Curious.

rptrsn2 · #24 06-13-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondl3

Is the volume from a 210+15 comparable to a 410? I've found 210s by themselves to be a little wimpy for louder gigs. Curious.

i,ve foundit louder and sounds better than any 410 ive owned or used. in my case its an avatar 210 and a peavey 115, the 410s ive used avatar,ampeg,peavey,gk,hartke,fender and swr.if that helps

eastcoasteddie · #25 06-13-2010, 05:23 PM

I've had a 2x10/1x15 setup, and it did sounde very good. Neither cabiet overpowered the other and each did it's job very well. But I believe that this setup is best suited for a bi-amp system, splitting the high's & low's.

I settled into a 2x10/4x10 setup as a faux 6x10. I know that it won't sound exaclty like a 6x10, but it does sound great.

When I had both the 4x10 and 1x15 in my home, and I had to sell one...but couldn't decide. But once I relly listened to the tightness of the low-end output of the 4x10, I decided to keep it. The 1x15 sounded more muddy and muffled. The 4x10 is super tight.

Jim C · #26 06-13-2010, 05:44 PM

For me, when balancing tone, power, and portability, assuming a rock band and approx 500 watt RMS head I say:

Either just a 1x15 (with or without a midrange depending on your preferences)
or
a 4x10

If size is not an issue (meaning that I don't have to move or store it) then an SVT or 6x10 cab is my preference

elavate7 · #27 06-13-2010, 06:07 PM

i went with the 210/115 option for two reasons....

1. i like mix and matching cabs.i run a 4x8+210 and love the combo. they compliment each other and now im also thinking of going the 210/115 route to get a thicker bottom.

2. more versatility. for smaller gigs, you can just bring the 210 or 115, then pair them up for larger gigs. with the 410, your stuck with that cab no matter what.

bpav68 · #28 12-17-2012, 10:26 PM

Thanks for your opinions. I'm currently debating what I want, 1X15 and 2X10 or 4X10 (all SWR with a 700 head)...

**CL400Peavey** · #29 12-17-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bpav68

Thanks for your opinions. I'm currently debating what I want, 1X15 and 2X10 or 4X10 (all SWR with a 700 head)...

I would go with two matching 210's. Stack them vertically.

Russell L · #30 12-18-2012, 05:43 AM

No way I'll carry a 410, no matter how lightweight. Too boxy. And, from what I hear it's not the best design to start with. Nor will I mix a 210 with a 115. I believe in matching cabs, preferably 2x112 or 2x115 (which is where I'm at now). 2x210 would work fine, too.

btw, please don't mix a 410 with a 115. You could ruin the 115 that way.

vishuddha · #31 12-18-2012, 05:46 AM

Anything but that godawful 410 + 115 stack Guitar Center salesmen keep telling me is ideal...

**CL400Peavey** · #32 12-18-2012, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vishuddha

Anything but that godawful 410 + 115 stack Guitar Center salesmen keep telling me is ideal...

Well his ideal is you giving him money... That is his priority.

LowEZ · #33 12-18-2012, 06:16 AM

Some 210+115 combinations work, some don't. Try before you buy. If you like what you hear from the particular 210+115 you're interested in, the only negative will be the flack you receive from the TB purists. Personally, I own SWR Golight 210+115 and I just picked up a first generation Peavey Pro 410 (Eden rip-off) for $150. The Peavey blows the doors off the SWRs even when bi-amped (which helped a lot). It's louder, deeper, more articulate, has a more polite midrange and a less harsh high end. To that, I will be selling the SWR 210, keeping the 115 for practice and using the Peavey for the half dozen or so gigs I do a year.

As it's been said a million times on TB, mixed drivers is a crap-shoot. This was my experience.

Sleeping Giant · #34 12-18-2012, 06:32 AM

I have used the 4x10 but now I am using the 2x10 & 1x15 combination. I found the sound is much better. I am using two Ashdown cabs with a Trace Elliott.
I get more bottom end and the 2x10 gives excellent clarity when slapping.
The 4x10 always lacked a certain presence that I get a lot of with the 2 cabs. Also they are each 8ohms and the 4x10 I had was a 4ohm so they should have had a similar output but the two cabs are much better.

vgbob · #35 12-18-2012, 06:41 AM

Can't reply to the poll, I use all three.
I always used a 210 + 115. Now have a 410 too, which
is easier to deal with. Like your children, which is your favorite? They all have good points.

SteveHeissner · #36 12-18-2012, 06:52 AM

I vote 410 for one simple reason. At 2:00 AM after playing 3 one hours sets and drinking a shot or two with the groupies I'm only going to want to move one cabinet.

**bobbybass85** · #37 12-18-2012, 07:03 AM

I have a 2x10 and 15 setup and it's been my rig for about 6 years now. That said I voted 4x10 meaning I'd do 2 2x10s vertically stacked. I just like the sound you get from matched driver sizes.

NYCbassist · #38 12-18-2012, 07:39 AM

I'm very happy with my Combo. Avatar Neo's 1 4Ohm 1x15 and 1 4Ohm 2x10. Hartke LH1000(just got it). I plug one Cab in the left Channel and one in the right channel and center the balance knob. I have the option to put more power to either Cab at any time to modify the sound but centred is probably where it'll stay. These Cabs also sounded Fantastic with my Carvin BX500. I play purely finger style but I smack the strings hard with my Middle finger sometimes which sounds like Slapping. Definitely no problems here with Mis-matching sizes.

jaxom · #39 12-18-2012, 07:46 AM

I have the 2x10 + 1x15.. I currently joined a new band and they have a 4x10 were we rehearse.. After using that I have found I like the 4x10 100x more. Better low end (IMO).
Just sounds better to me...

BassSurfer · #40 12-20-2012, 07:23 AM

Just got a 4x10 after years of only doing 2x10s and I am in love. The overall sound is now much more full sounding and there is now a new presence of low-end that I have never felt or heard before. People have been using 4x10s for YEARS, bassists and guitarists, and there has never been a "problem" or lack of frequencies so to speak.